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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 22, 2019.

Casinoeuro

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 2#Casinoeuro

State institution

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 4#State institution

"How to" redirects

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete all except for How to tell bees from wasps (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and How to make a Mayday call (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). — JJMC89(T·C) 00:44, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All of these violate WP:NOTHOWTO and WP:NOTGOOGLE. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTHOWTO. JimRenge (talk) 22:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep bees and wasps. This is the original title of the target article (see edit summary), which began almost sixteen years ago. The rationale is completely off-base; NOTGOOGLE talks about how we shouldn't provide links to anything and everything (which these redirects don't), and NOTHOWTO talks about how articles shouldn't be written in the style of an owner's manual, cookbook, advice column (legal, medical or otherwise) or suggestion box. Both are talking about content, not titles. The other titles in this batch are more recent, so implausibility is a good enough reason to delete them. Nyttend (talk) 23:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. A bees and wasps, bees vs. wasps redirect can be created to help the comparison. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:50, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:LOMP

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:46, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unused cross-namespace redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:04, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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SaveasPDFandXPS

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The result of the discussion was delete. NJA (t/c) 09:12, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in its targerted article. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 15:00, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Glasshole

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The result of the discussion was keep, although I'll leave it to the participants of this discussion to add it to the article. -- Tavix (talk) 19:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The term "Glasshole" doesn't appear in the target page, so I think this could be retargetted to it's Wiktionary entry, which contains more information about the term. 46.132.189.118 (talk) 05:41, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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0.9999999999999999999999999999999

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. We've gone through a ton of these, each has been relisted, some many times, and some are still ongoing. After nearly three weeks I don't see a consensus and I don't see us getting there or find value in another relist. This is slightly cognizant of 0.99_=_1 and 0.9_equals_1, but I think this one is slightly more weighted toward the keep side of things. ~ Amory (utc) 11:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible and unlikely to be searched and used. No one will add thirty-one "9"s to search for 0.999..., now let's set the limit to 30 "9"s. It could be changed later B dash (talk) 02:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Rail

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Not many bolded !votes despite discussion by many parties, which made it a bit harder to parse what is going on than usual, but I see enough opposition to this proposal. No prejudice against renomination should a local consensus develop on what do with the relevant module(s). -- Tavix (talk) 19:33, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural nomination on behalf of Cards84664, see User talk:Pppery#Tfd. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 00:19, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The name of the module is being discussed at Template talk:Adjacent stations#Requested move 10 February 2019. Ythlev (talk) 04:05, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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List of male rappers

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The result of the discussion was keep List of male rappers and delete List of Male Rappers and List Of Male Rappers, moving the history per Amory. -- Tavix (talk) 21:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List redirects to category space are strongly discouraged. Even if these 3 redirects had their formatting errors corrected (capitalisation and lack of leading colon before "Category"), they would target a category that is not a comprehensive list of male rappers. I suggest delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:49, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep List of male rappers, delete the other two. After reading the previous RfD and checking that there is List of female rappers (but no alternatively capitalized redirects), I have come to the same conclusion as Angus. We should keep one correctly formatted redirect so that readers who type this title into the search box will go straight to the category. Internal links to the incorrectly formatted titles should be discouraged so we should delete those; the search box automatically looks for alternative capitalization. Deryck C. 15:35, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep List of male rappers, delete others. The first is a plausible search term, regardless of whether or not the category is comprehensive. The encyclopedia is never complete, after all. The other two capitalizations are unnecessary and could confuse searches. Novusuna talk 20:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think keeping the first and deleting the second and third is reasonable, except that List of Male Rappers has over 100 revisions. Now, that only constituted two months as a list article before being redirected, but if we're going to keep only one title, mightn't we keep the one with some history? That is, if only the first title is to be kept, I'd recommend moving this to that title without leaving a redirect, so that the history is retained there. Probably over-complicated, but I'm not sure what the downside is. ~ Amory (utc) 21:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • The simpler course of action is just to keep all of them as they are equally useful redirects, just {{R from other capitalisation}} ones. Not every method used to find Wikipedia content is case insensitive. Thryduulf (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, yes, but given the writing on the wall above I wanted to make the case to at least save what history there is/was. ~ Amory (utc) 01:09, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yeah, if the closing admin is going to just go with the simple majority of bold votes then the one with history is better kept, but hopefully they will read the actual rationales and realise that there is actually no policy based reason to delete alternatively capitalised redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 10:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Natural elements

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The result of the discussion was retarget Natural element to Natural elements, which is now the title of the disambiguation. -- Tavix (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Natural abundance is not discussed in detail in the target article. This could also plausibly redirect to natural abundance or chemical element or a relevant subsection. Is there a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this term, or should it be deleted per WP:XY? ComplexRational (talk) 20:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Find sperm donor

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 20:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Pseudo-search-string redirects. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I'm technically the "creator" of the Lilian Swann Saarinen one, but only by virtue of moving somebody else's creation to its correct title after they created it at this illogical form. We used to have a rule in place that redirects resulting from page moves always had to be retained for GFDL attribution reasons except very occasionally in the case of a page title that represented an extreme policy violation (such as being disparaging to the subject) — but that's since been deprecated, and we can now delete page-move redirects if they aren't useful. Which that one isn't, so there's no need to hold onto it anymore.
    As for the sperm donor one, that's a direct original creation by somebody else, but it's still not one I can see an obvious case for — it just seems to me like a case of "not what a person who was searching for that term would expect to find", because I would imagine a person typing that into the search bar was looking for a detailed how-to guide rather than a cursory two-sentence summary of the fact that the concept exists. Though, of course, Wikipedia has a WP:NOTHOWTO rule, so that's not grounds for expanding the section to justify the redirect either. Bearcat (talk) 18:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Find delete per nom. Bearcat's one can be speedied if impatient. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:27, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep #1, no reason to delete. Delete #2 per above reasoning. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep "find sperm donor" as a plausible search term. Delete "Find Lilian Swann Saarinen" - she does not appear to have been notably missing at any point, nor does her article suggest there was any project, campaign or similar with this or a similar name. Thryduulf (talk) 20:30, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete #1: I'm not convinced by Thryduulf's argument that "find sperm donor" is a plausible search term because it undermines the search function. If I were to search for "find sperm donor" in the top search bar, I wouldn't expect to be force redirected to the concept of donor tracking. Maybe I'm searching for notable people who found their biological parents from sperm donation tracking. Either way, it's an ambiguous title, and searchers should be given the benefit of the doubt for ambiguous titles. 'Weak' delete because I'm flip-flopping a bit between this argument and Thryduulf's argument, and the number of pageviews is low anyway. Delete #2 per nom and Thryduulf. 2601:483:4C80:241D:35D8:3D8E:CCFE:1AE1 (talk) 15:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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House (architecture)

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 20:37, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. This is an {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} (and I'll rcat it thus) but to me it lays false scent: by having the title "House (architecture)" we're implying that is something different from a mere house. 178.164.162.144 (talk) 08:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point, but we don't have House (structure) or Hitler (painter). (We do actually have Hitlers architect -> Albert Speer but that's a different story: We don't have Albert Speer (architect).) Perhaps I am being overly pedantic, but I'm taking the view that if we disambiguate: if we make a distinction for whatever reason, it is leading readers at least some way up the garden path to find that a House (architecture) is just a house. 178.164.162.144 (talk) 05:10, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Dabs for (structure) and (building) are fine. It's just that (architecture) implies a type of architecture, and there isn't one called House like there is with House music. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:26, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Jean-Claude Houdret

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The result of the discussion was refine to Karl Lagerfeld#Weight loss. Consensus does not exist to restore the article nor to delete, but it has been suggested to point to the section where he is mentioned, which makes sense to me. -- Tavix (talk) 20:33, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Why does an article about a French medical professional redirect to the article about a German fashion designer? Openlydialectic (talk) 02:23, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Quiet Bill

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Courier (comics). — JJMC89(T·C) 00:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No information at target (info was previously deleted due to lack of notability [1]); no suitable target as far as I can tell. Should be deleted. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 01:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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David Campbell (comics)

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No information at the target page, there does not appear to be a suitable target. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 01:24, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Ch'vayre

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Stryfe. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No information at target article (was previously deleted [2]). Namenamenamenamename (talk) 01:13, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Captain Fate

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Captain Britain and MI13. -- Tavix (talk) 20:35, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No information at target page (content was previously deleted [3]), and there does not appear to be a suitable target. Links to this page are namedrops and could easily be deleted. This redirect should be deleted. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 01:10, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PC78, that is something the nominator has been doing for months; removing merged entries from the list articles, then deleting the redirects saying there is no information in the target page and no better article to retarget to. BOZ (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Misplaced or missing brackets

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 00:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. Stray or missing brackets make these highly unlikely search terms and of no real value. PC78 (talk) 00:29, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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