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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 16, 2019.

Lancegate

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_Zero 13:44, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, and seemingly not mentioned in any other articles about Lance Armstrong. Third party search engines seem to return primarily results for Bert Lance when searching for "Lancegate". Steel1943 (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Sī Dàlín

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:59, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FORRED. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:58, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Juana de Arco

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:59, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish. WP:FORRED. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:58, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Juan Sebastián Bach

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish. WP:FORRED. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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John Paul Ii

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. It'll take me a while to carry this out... --BDD (talk) 14:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

E.g. John Paul II and John paul ii are sufficient. We don't need inconsistencies in the capitalization of the numeral itself. (John Paul Ii gets decent traffic because it is the first search suggestion that pops up when you type in "John Paul II", as I experienced myself.) All of these were created by the same editor, who is no longer active on Wikipedia. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The Yuki

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Yuki people. --BDD (talk) 15:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No apparent connection. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:54, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Mrs. Bartimus

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Appears just to be the name of someone's teacher. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:53, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Early years of john f. kennedy

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 20:34, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ad-hoc section names do not redirects make. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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St.Pauls

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The result of the discussion was retarget to St Paul's Cathedral. --BDD (talk) 20:31, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spacing error. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:48, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Micheal Jordon

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All double typos. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:47, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep all Is it not plausible to have two typos? Perhaps there should be a limit (though 2 seems too low). If so, it should be changed at WP:RPURPOSE.—Bagumba (talk) 09:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Multiple typos is a rule of thumb based on common outcomes, though not a hard and fast rule. See WP:RTYPO. --BDD (talk) 14:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all. It is not necessary for us to preemptively anticipate and create a redirect from every potential typo we can possibly imagine somebody somewhere on earth making — the test for whether a redirect-from-typo is warranted or not hinges on whether that typo is a documentably common sight in the real world. There's no evidence that any of these meet that standard. For instance, "Michael" being misspelled as "Micheal" is a thing that observably happens a lot, so "Micheal"→"Michael" redirects are permissible — but "Jordan" being misspelled as "Jordon", and "Bieber" being misspelled as "Beebar", are only possible in theory, and not widely seen in reality. Bearcat (talk) 16:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per unlkiely duoble misspelling. Steel1943 (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all as unlikely search targets.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Lucanius

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#Lucanius

Mall Ze-dong

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mall and More are not variant Chinese pronunciations of 毛 (Máo). — the Man in Question (in question) 20:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Leonardo D.Caprio

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#Leonardo D.Caprio

Leonardo D`caprio

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leonardo D'caprio already exists separately. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete There's no reason someone would use a grave accent like this. Reach Out to the Truth 18:47, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It is not necessary for us to preemptively anticipate and create redirects from every typo we can possibly imagine somebody somewhere on earth ever making — the test for whether a redirect-from-typo is warranted or not hinges on whether that typo is a documentably common sight in the real world. Bearcat (talk) 16:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Armstrong, Louis Satchmo

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#Armstrong, Louis Satchmo

Keeuopatrai

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear on the meaning of these redirects. Not Greek forms. If from some other language, then WP:FORRED. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Futhaghuras

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#Futhaghuras

M. Angelo

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 13:34, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since Michelangelo's name was not "Michael Angelo", this does not seem like a worthy redirect. Who's going to search for M. Angelo over Michelangelo or Michael Angelo, which already exists for those confused about that. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello. I created this redirect 11 years ago. If you check 'what links here', you will see that the redirect was created while going through a list of red-links at Talk:Albert Memorial, specifically the composers, architects, poets, painters, and sculptors depicted on the Frieze of Parnassus that forms part of the Albert Memorial. It appears that the files at The National Archives (in the UK) include a 'historical summary' that used this form of the name to refer to Michelangelo, using a list taken from the official history (see below). The form 'Michael Angelo' is rare (it tends to be used in older sources), but is used in some places, such as the work The Life of Michael Angelo (1912). So the form M. Angelo will likely appear in some places (e.g. it is used in the official history of the memorial, The National Memorial to His Royal Highness the Prince Consort, that was published in 1873), so a redirect could be of some use. In a similar vein, the form of the name carved into the memorial is 'MICHAEL ANGELO', which you can verify for yourself in the photo here (he is the one in the middle of that side of the frieze). The same form of the name is used on the east side of the frieze (he appears twice in total). I am going to ask for some advice on how common the form 'Michael Angelo' is. Carcharoth (talk) 02:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not an uncommon abbreviation in 19th-century books & earlier & worth keeping. Did you check google before nominating? Apparently not. Johnbod (talk) 02:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep obviously. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC).[reply]
  • Keep. While it certainly seems implausible in the contemporary context that anybody would actually refer to Michelangelo this way, the above commenters have presented significant evidence that he historically was referred to as "Michael Angelo" or "M. Angelo" in some sources. Bearcat (talk) 16:33, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per everyone above. A little bit of WP:BEFORE will save everyone a lot of time. Thryduulf (talk) 16:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Michelange

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Michel-Ange. -- Tavix (talk) 13:34, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably meant to be French Michel-Ange. WP:FORRED. Retarget to Michel-Ange per PC78. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Michelan

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Michelan Sisti and hatnote to Michelin. I like the coincidence that it's being retargeted from Michelangelo to an actor that played Michelangelo. -- Tavix (talk) 13:39, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Part of a name does not make a good redirect. (And could more easily redirect to Michelin.) — the Man in Question (in question) 20:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Gate bill

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fail at {{R from sort name}}. Also, could have numerous other meanings. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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III Gates William Henry

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 July 30#III Gates William Henry

Sinica

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 00:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Sinica redirects to a section of Names of China, but the article doesn't state that Sinica was/is a name of China. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:50, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Sinensis

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The result of the discussion was delete. It seems that the grammatical distance between Sinica and Sinensis is just far enough to push the two titles to the two different outcomes. Deryck C. 00:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Flora Sinensis is not known solely as "Sinensis". There are, however, dozens of articles about species with "sinensis" in the title, and this redirect therefore impedes search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(n.b. Flora Sinensis is a book. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC))[reply]
@BDD:, I'm not sick of the pings, keep them coming. Category:Taxonomy disambiguation pages is where most the species epithet disambiguation pages can be found (although the contents of that category include some other things).Plantdrew (talk) 19:47, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Dennis Highby

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 4#Dennis Highby

Lance Armstrong/proposal

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Subject is not a proposal. Redirect has no edit history that needs to be retained. Steel1943 (talk) 17:58, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I initially thought this was one of those mainspace subpages from the UseModWiki days, but it only dates to 2005 and its creation constituted a content duplication in any case. No longer has any purpose. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:46, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Sheridan, WY, mSA

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The result of the discussion was keep. Bold retargeting of any of these redirects to other articles about the relevant geographical areas in Wyoming are also encouraged. Deryck C. 00:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete these six odd, unnecessary, malformed, unlikely typos. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I'm unclear what is wrong with Sheridan, WY USA. Is the "U" not a "U"? Steel1943 (talk) 17:47, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    That one might be better pointed at Sheridan, Wyoming, unless there's something irregular with that U. --BDD (talk) 18:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep since per the article, "Sheridan County comprises the Sheridan, WY Micropolitan Statistical Area". It's been a few years since we've had one of these come up here, so here are the precedents: 27 July 2009 (withdrawn), 18 September 2010 (delete), 27 September 2010 (keep all), 13 July 2015 (keep), 8 August 2015 (keep), 12 November 2015 (keep), 20 April 2016 (keep). -- Tavix (talk) 17:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep most. For one thing, this needs to go to the county, not to the city — the micropolitan area embraces the whole county, even the out-of-the-way rural areas. Secondly, four of these are not typos; the use of a Greek letter "mu" is normal for "micro" (e.g. "micrometre" is commonly abbreviated "µm"), and I believe we have "µSA" redirects for every micropolitan area in the USA. If we have a large group of articles, and all of them have redirects with a similar format, deleting exactly one of them as implausible or typo doesn't make sense; if you think the idea's problematic, please start a broader discussion about trashing all of them. That being said...Delete USA and mSA. USA is a typo, and mSA is not usual I believe. If I'm wrong, and many articles of this sort have such redirects, I'll be interested in following my own advice and starting a broader discussion on their suitability. Nyttend (talk) 23:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    They're all going to the county right now. I only suggested retargeting the one to the city if we interpret it as "Sheridan, Wyoming, United States". --BDD (talk) 13:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I hadn't thought of it that way at all: I saw it only as a mangled form of µSA, not as the country name. I don't think it's a very good redirect, since Americans won't append the country name and people from other countries probably won't know the postal abbreviation. Nyttend (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • PS, another reason for keeping — see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 September 27 where µSA redirects were discussed. DBaK produced several examples of this format being used by US state governments to indicate micropolitan areas. If a government agency is using a specific abbreviation for a specific term, our use of the same abbreviation for the same term is neither mistaken nor implausible. Nyttend (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Side comment: The difference between the identical-looking links using the Greek letter mu is currently being discussed on the Reference desk here. If any action is to be taken, it might be best to wait for at least a few days. --69.159.11.113 (talk) 04:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Skin turgor

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The result of the discussion was no consensus default to keep, as the discussion has demonstrated some connection between the title and the target, and no overwhelming evidence of harm. Deryck C. 00:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article. In addition, from what I am seeing via third party engines, the subject of this redirect is probably notable enough to have its own article, aka get deleted per WP:REDLINK unless an appropriate target is found for this. For what it's worth, I found the article Turgor pressure (The target of redirect Turgor), and I could not find an appropriate location to target the nominated redirect, most likely because again, it seems like a notable subject by itself and no section of that article explains the subject of this redirect sufficiently enough. Steel1943 (talk) 06:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as redirect. In medical practice "skin turgor" is only of any relevance in the assessment for dehydration, of which it is a late sign. It should be mentioned in the target article and it is surprising that it isn't. COI I created the redirect almost to the day 10 years ago. JFW | T@lk 06:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • ...That's the issue: The redirect has no mention at the target. At the present time, readers attempting to look up this redirect who are expecting to find information about the subject of the redirect will not find what they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 22:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Jfdwolff. A commonly used medical term used to describe a finding in a dehydrated state. Would warrant a mention but should not be deleted just because presently there is no mention. --Tom (LT) (talk) 18:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. I thought one of the main goals of WP:MED is to be really accurate and precise, given that people will use Wikipedia as a medical reference. If we don't discuss this, we shouldn't play games and imply otherwise. --BDD (talk) 20:27, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 17:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep pending addition of symptom to target. At the very least it provides a hint that could help someone searching for the meaning and relevance of the term. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC).[reply]
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Wikipedia:BRRR

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the links are intended to go to WP:BRR; instead they go to a "humour" page that assumes bad faith. Peter James (talk) 17:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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USS Sheridan (1865)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#USS Sheridan (1865)

National Religious Affairs Administration

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#National Religious Affairs Administration

AL. Vijay-Jayam Ravi Project

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:25, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect -- CptViraj (📧) 14:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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ACNH

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 July 31#ACNH

Eastern Continent

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:25, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This term seems more used in fiction than in this context, and was created to refer to what looks like Essos. -- Tavix (talk) 14:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Shenxu

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The result of the discussion was Disambiguate. Ruslik_Zero 13:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target, no indication that this is an alternative spelling. signed, Rosguill talk 14:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The target page is linked to the Chinese page zh:肾虚, which is Shenxu. It is the fault of the target page not mentioning the alternative saying.--刻意(Kèyì) 02:54, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate (1st choice) or keep (2nd choice). Shenxu 腎虛 and Shenkui 腎虧 are synonyms, according to zh:肾虚. Shenxu (申胥), one of the titles of historical figure Wu Zixu, could swing this towards disambiguate as well. But the medical term is largely synonymous with "impotence" so redirecting to a famous historical man when the title refers to the medical condition (or vice versa) could be astonishing... Deryck C. 23:57, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate I think Deryck makes a good case for disambiguation. I've drafted something, and I'd appreciate a spot-check of it, especially by you, Deryck, if you're available. I'm sure there's some precedent for this sort of disambiguation; it's not exactly a Chinese-character disambiguation, but I think giving the characters gives important context. --BDD (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! That looks good. --BDD (talk) 13:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Dirsana Qeddus Urael

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:24, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One of many redirects created pointing to this target by the same editor, I don't see any justification for including the term "Qeddus" signed, Rosguill talk 14:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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God Church

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 July 31#God Church

Wikipedia:BRR

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle#Alternatives. As explained on the talk page, "Bold, revert, revert" is listed as one of the legitimate alternatives to BRD. (Really all this would require is moving the shortcut template on the target page rather than any edits to the redirect itself, but I thought it best to discuss it here anyway.) See also the previous RfD. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 14:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as is. The linked section need a TLA shortcut; WP:BRB is being used for the proposed target. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry, I don't see what's special about three-letter abbreviations such that every section needs one. The letters BRR themselves correspond to the second entry under "Alternatives". Wouldn't that be the most logical place to put the shortcut? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 14:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • And where, do you imagine, did I say that "every section needs one"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:44, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • When you said The linked section need a TLA shortcut. If you aren't saying every section needs one, could you explain why this one does and why BRR is the preferred one? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as is. The "Bold, revert, revert" concept appears twice on the page. The target is currently the ==Edit warring== section, which is the first of those two appearances. Whereas "Bold, revert, revert" is more often the beginning of an edit war, rather than correcting a genuine mistake, it IMO makes sense for the redirect to point to the riskier behavior. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:25, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. There is an extremely high bar for modifying shortcut redirects that have seen use and this doesn't come close to reaching it. Thryduulf (talk) 16:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Polyvinyl cyanide

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Solid justifications for the redirect provided, withdrawing nomination. (non-admin closure) signed, Rosguill talk 15:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target, searching online I couldn't confirm or refute that this is an alternative name for the subject. signed, Rosguill talk 14:02, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Eurasia, The Lost Continent

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:47, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This was created as an article explaining how Eurasia is not a real place and no one lives there, but for some reason was redirected instead of deleted. Eurasia is not popularly known as "The Lost Continent" and Lost continent is silent on Eurasia. -- Tavix (talk) 13:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Aristide Duval

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional character that isn't mentioned in the target article or anywhere else. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Second American Civil War (disambiguation)

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Antwerp (Quest for Glory)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 23:53, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A minor fictional element that isn't mentioned in any article. Its entry at Antwerp (disambiguation) should also be removed. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Homme fatale

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:19, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The term is not mentioned at the target article, in fact I don't see anything there regarding a male equivalent. PC78 (talk) 01:09, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: An extra title was added towards the end of the discussion, and there is a proposal of splitting the results, so I think we can relist for another week.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 11:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Androgynous characters in Final Fantasy

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unencyclopedic topic for a list, and implausible since it is not mentioned in the article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Blitzball Techniques

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:GAMEGUIDE. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hilde Garde

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The result of the discussion was retarget the first to Hildegard, delete the rest. --BDD (talk) 14:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in this article nor the article for the game in which it appears. WP:GAMECRUFT. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Final Fantasy bestiary

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Shiva in Final Fantasy Series

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:18, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible due to incorrect grammar and typos. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Beastmaster (character class)

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Final Fantasy armor and accessories

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Overdrive (Final Fantasy X

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GameplayofFinalFantasy

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Mountain meadow

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Wikipedia:CPP

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The result of the discussion was retarget. --BDD (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to propose reassigning the redirect WP:CPP from Wikipedia:WikiProject Cal Poly Pomona to Wikipedia:Civil POV pushing. This shortcut is hardly used for the project, but would be a natural shortcut for the highly linked essay about civility. Some points to consider:

I had good luck on one prior occasion (I forget which) in requesting a group relinquish a shortcut that was not used much, in favor of another target where it made good logical sense. I simply approached the group on their talk page and asked; as I recall there was a brief discussion, and that was that. I had planned to do the same in this case, but I doubt that raising a discussion on a page that hasn't been touched in four years would make much sense, so I'm bringing the discussion here instead. I'll notify the project, but don't imagine that will draw a lot of people here.

Question: should WP:CPP be retargeted to Wikipedia:Civil POV pushing? Mathglot (talk) 01:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

In general, I'm opposed to "stealing" redirects and retargeting them to somewhere else, even when they haven't been used as long as this one has. On the other hand, this one really doesn't seem to have been used any time recently, so it's not clear to me that anyone would be inconvenienced. In fact the most recent case I'm aware of, is this edit, which is the one that got me here in the first place. As it turns out, that use of the shortcut WP:CPP was in error, the author having intended the essay as the actual destination of that shortcut.

As the essay is quite popular and, I believe there would be a significant overall benefit to the project by retargeting the shortcut; and as there has been very little or no valid recent use of the shortcut, I see very little downside to retargeting it. Mathglot (talk) 01:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, I don't think that's wise. The appearances of CPP = POV pushing are separated by several years: Hijri used it recently, while its other appearance at User:Raul654/archive16 dates from 2008. These are completely independent uses, while the university usage comes from a blocked sockpuppeteer (not likely to use it again) and DGG's the only one using CPP = close paraphrase. Nyttend (talk) 05:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Mathglot's opening comment basically sums it up (although I was a bit more succinct in describing my own feelings on the matter here). The one thing I would add is that the Aconymfinder results are not really relevant for our purposes, since the real-world acronym doesn't have "WP:" attached to it: we have a disambig page at CPP to list off-wiki topics that are known by this acronym. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Ha-ha, no one ever accused me of being succinct. Guess I need to work on that... Good job linking the CPP disambig page; didn't even think to look there, and I should've. Btw (and this is slightly o/t here) but I think I've seen helpful hat-notes in namespace before, where an article might be named similarly to a policy or other project page someone might be looking for instead, and I wonder if it would be appropriate to add a few CPP-policy links to that page, such as the two mentioned above. Mathglot (talk) 20:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC) Ah, here's an example: see hat-note at Civility. Mathglot (talk) 20:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I used this for close paraphrase because it is what I use in my set of macros for expanding abbreviations when typing and it must accidentally for one of several reasons not have gotten expanded. I do however think its logical, but not worth confusing with other existing redirects, even though those redirects should beoe deleted as not useful. DGG ( talk ) 05:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I don’t believe I understood what you just said. If it’s important, could you restate it in other words? Mathglot (talk) 05:29, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    See Macro (computer science). DGG has set up his computer so that when he types WP:CPP, his computer automatically replaces those characters with Wikipedia:Civil POV pushing (it expands the link from six characters to twenty-seven) before the edit is saved. However, for some reason his computer failed to replace the shorthand with the full text, so he ended up providing a link to Cal Poly by accident. Nyttend (talk) 21:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Helpful, thanks. Mathglot (talk) 09:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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