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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 24, 2024.

New Zealand 2015 (Association football event)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 14:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

• New Zealand 2015 (Association football event) → 2015 FIFA U-20 World Cup  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Multiple 2015 association football events in New Zealand that could be just as likely targets. See 2015 Chatham Cup and 2015 Women's Knockout Cup. There are many recent similar creations by this editor that I will begin going through and try to bulk nom. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Keep. This should be kept. Those two events were recurring events in New Zealand. Abhiramakella (talk) 21:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Löschen: The redirect is ambiguous and I don't believe anybody would ever be searching for any of those events by that name, so I don't think it's a useful search term. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  I made this redirect because this was the only major association football event held in 2015. New Zealand 2015 redirects to 2015 in New Zealand. Abhiramakella (talk) 21:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep The logo for this event refers to it as "New Zealand 2015." The other two events mentioned by the nominator are not international competitions and thus did not need to be labeled as being in N.Z. Thus, I do not foresee any potential ambiguity. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:49, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  As is, I still find it a bit ambiguous as all are association football events in New Zealand in 2015. At the very least, shouldn't "association" be lower case? Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 15:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  I'll concede the lower case styling. But, unless there's evidence that the Chatham Cup or the Women's Knockout Cup are referred to as "New Zealand 2015," I do not see how this is ambiguous. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep this appears to be the clear primary topic (possibly the only topic) for the search term. Thryduulf (talk) 14:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per those above. Plausible and harmless. CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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🆥

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Elite slaves

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Curvaceous

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Curvaceous → Hourglass figure  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I don't think "curvaceous" is a synonym for having an hourglass-shaped body (which is where it was retargeted by Alalch E. earlier today). Looking it up on duckduckgo images, it seems to be used to describe fatter women in general. But I also don't think "curvaceous" is a synonym for being fat either, so I propose retargeting this redirect back to wikt:curvaceous, where it targeted originally. Duckmather (talk) 20:43, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep (as is). I don't think it's a synonym either, but it's a closely related word. A more general article which could serve as an alternative target could be Female body shape (permalink; two uses in the body, not counting an image caption), but I find Hourglass figure to be the most suitable target.—Alalch E. 20:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. I think this is an example of a euphemism usurping the more literal meaning of a word; "curvaceous" and "voluptuous" used to be used to describe an hourglass figure like those of 1950s starlets, as opposed to the curveless silhouettes fashionable during the flapper era of the 1920s or the "Twiggy" fashion of the late 1960s. It's only in recent years that these words have become euphemisms for "fat", and it's entirely possible that this usage will fade from memory in a few more. P Aculeius (talk) 12:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

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Sturmian morphism

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Sturmian word#Sturmian endomorphisms. (non-admin closure) Un assiolo (talk) 13:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

• Sturmian morphism → Free monoid#Morphisms  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, seems to be related to Sturmian_word#Sturmian_endomorphisms. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I've never heard of them before, but that seems obviously correct. Why discuss this at all? Rp (talk) 16:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Because I've never heard of that term before either. :-) 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:30, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 19:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: discussed at target (A morphism is Sturmian...) Cremastra (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Sturmian word#Sturmian endomorphisms per nom. @Cremastra: By target I guess you meant Sturmian word#Sturmian endomorphisms, and by Keep, you meant Retarget? Jay 💬 13:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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Economic totalitarianism

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Vimina

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Branch#Specific terms. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 15:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

• Vimina → Vien  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This was originally a redirect to Vien (Hasidic dynasty) (which, I'm not sure why, was retargeted to the same target as this one despite initially pointing at Vien (Hasidic community)). I don't know what this redirect is supposed to refer to, but the botanical term is mentioned in Branch#Specific_terms. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to Branch#Specific terms per nom where this term is mentioned. CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Elmira station

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Elmira station → Elmira, Ontario  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not discussed at the target article; there are several former stations in Elmira, New York, that a user might be looking for (also undiscussed). Should be returned to a red link. Mackensen (talk) 17:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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Koi Mil Gaya 3

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Koi Mil Gaya 3 → Krrish 3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Koi... Mil Gaya 3 → Krrish 3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Again no such movies exists. M S Hassan 🤓☝🏻 11:59, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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Koi Mil Gaya 2

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Krish 1

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Strawman (literal)

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Fire and Ash

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The result of the discussion was keep. I will also merge Fire and Ash (disambiguation) to Fire and Ashes. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

• Fire and Ash → Avatar: Fire and Ash  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A user created and redirected to the upcoming Avatar franchise film, whose title was revealed in the past week [1]. This, for me, shouldn't be redirected this way because of WP:RECENTISM. Would suggest to convert it back to the DAB page without disambiguator, and wait for a couple years from film's release before having this as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC again. ScarletViolet tc 11:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, because the film is the only article we have with this name. The other items on Fire and Ash (disambiguation) are WP:DABMENTION entries. Avatar: Fire and Ash should get a hatnote, though. - Eureka Lott 15:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

  The hatnote was improperly removed by the nominator. I have reverted the removal. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Strong keep as creator The disambiguation page, which was created after the redirect, contains three (previously, two) MOS:DABMENTION entries. In other words, the three other uses of "Fire and Ash" are topics deemed not notable for standalone articles. Currently, Avatar: Fire and Ash is the only article whose title includes the phrase "Fire and Ash", so there is no other subject of comparable notability to be disambiguated with, and the film can be safely deemed the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In any case, it would be unreliastic to claim that an obscure YA novel, comic book, and graphic novel "could" be as notable as an Avatar film — the chances are near zero. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Oh, I just found out that Fire and Ash (disambiguation) has also a similarly-titled dab page: Fire and Ashes (disambiguation). Maybe having two dab pages merged into one could be better, with more "Fire and Ashes" entries than "Fire and Ash". How does that sound? ScarletViolet tc 09:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the nom's proposal of merging the two dabs?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:09, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• I agree with merging the two dab pages into one. -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 04:43, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I'm fine with moving the DAB entries to the other page, but Fire and Ash should still redirect to the film as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. A hatnote can link to Fire and Ash (disambiguation), which can redirect to Fire and Ashes (disambiguation). That separate proposal doesn't change this one. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Template:OURL

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 08:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Template:OURL → Template:Official URL  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

unused and not necessary — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 18:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment neither "unused" nor "unnecessary" are reasons for deleting a redirect. You need to explain how the existence of this redirect is harmful. Thryduulf (talk) 11:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Delete as confusing. OURL could refer to many things like "outgoing URL", "online URL", etc. I don't see any need for a shortcut to a template only used in infoboxes, which are already complex enough already without cryptic shortcuts. Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:41, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - Reasonable template shortcut. Shortcuts are often unused, and shortcuts are more often than not ambiguous. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 19:08, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment This was created a few months ago. Shortcuts are one thing like ubl for unbulleted list but I haven't seen shortcut for official url because it's usually from a copy and paste of the syntax at its relatable infobox. – The Grid (talk) 02:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per Ca. --Un assiolo (talk) 21:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per my comment above. – The Grid (talk) 18:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

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Module:Road data/routelist

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 08:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Module:Road data/routelist → Module:Road data/locations  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Created as a fork of Module:Road data and was never used on any pages. Its former functionality still exists at Module:Road data and Module:Road data/locations. – BrandonXLF (talk) 02:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 21:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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FuBl 2

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Crab angle

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Fan Reaction to Relena Peacecraft

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 08:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Fan Reaction to Relena Peacecraft → List of Mobile Suit Gundam Wing characters#Relena Peacecraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Fan Reactions to Relena Peacecraft → List of Mobile Suit Gundam Wing characters#Relena Peacecraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not described at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Delete based on looking at its creation in 2007. Very WP:OR. A speedy deletion should have happened instead of a redirect. – The Grid (talk) 18:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

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