Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/HPJoker

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HPJoker

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Final (0/11/0); Ended 16:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC) Closed per WP:SNOW by Maxim_(talk) 16:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC) HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} - A vandal fighter with a lot of experience in other things on Wiki thanks to jj137, a current sysop. Thanx to him, I know a lot of cool tools and functions on Wikipedia. HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 05:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: Reverting vandalism, baseball articles. I'm part of the Red Sox Wikiproject, and baseball season is about to start, so that will give me some stuff to do. I'd love to help other Wikipedians in need and maybe finding the occasional IP address that seems interested in doing work and may want to create an account. Blocks on accounts/IPs that vandalize enough to know that it's a vandal only account/IPs. I also intend to work with jj on some work. He can help me get started as an admin if this passes.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: I'd have to say the Red Sox newsletter. I edit in a lot of different places and as I've said twice above, reverting vandalism. I've learned how to work with peers and gather information for about 6 readers, and hopefully will expand to 10+ (lol, like thats a lot.) I have really enjoyed writing for it.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Yes. A sockpuppetry case involving me and User:Socby19. You can read it all here. I've matured since then and have learned a lot. For example, I've had this IP that I warned for vandalism vandalizing my talk and user pages. I've dealt with him in a calmer matter and with the help of jj, he has stopped vandalizing my pages.

General comments

• Links for HPJoker: HPJoker (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
• No edit count summary on the discussion page? How do we add this?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 12:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/HPJoker before commenting.

Discussion

Oppose

1. Oppose. I think you have made a fine start, but I think you need a more balanced approach to WP editing than you have shown to date. In particular, I'd like to see at least some time spent on admin-related stuff - AfD, image tagging, AN/I, etc. There's just not enough here to allow a determination of how you will behave under pressure. Also, I hate to say it but edit summaries are abysmal. You really need to start using them and understand why they are important to admins. I wish you luck and look forward to supporting you when you have addressed these concerns. Ronnotel (talk) 06:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Oppose - comments like this about Eric Gagne not just on a talk page but on something that purports to be an official part of a project are horrific. Having an opinion about a rival player ... whatever ... expressing it on a user talk page ... whatever ... but this is a project newsletter. I'm also concerned about your user page being basically a sports blog and a total lack of mainspace edits [1]. --B (talk) 07:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
3. Oppose per B's link. Also, looking at this, I think you should use edit summaries more often as well as editing the mainspace more. Midorihana^~iidesune? 08:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
4. Oppose Lack of a firm grasp of what is needed for admin mop. Jmlk17 08:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
5. Oppose Comments like [2] calling out another user, really aren't things I like to see. And the behavior described in Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/HPJoker really makes me question things, but I'll admit people can grow and change. I'd really like to see involvement (not a FA/GA thing, but more contributions) in a content space (Article, Image, Category, Template, Help). Also, any users can revert vandalism or edit baseball articles, so I'm a little concerned that you might not understand what things an admin does and doesn't do. From your edit history, a great use of Edit Summaries would be a good thing. And I understand your limited as a non-admin to doing things that an admin does (protecting, blocking, deleting, etc), but you really should contribute something (a report, a comment, etc) to WP:XFD, the noticeboards, or dispute resolution/WP:Helpdesk. You might look into WP:ADMINCOACHing to find someone who can help you round out your experience set. MBisanz ^talk 08:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
6. BLP applies to every page on Wikipedia.[3] Daniel (talk) 12:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
7. The link provided by B is concerning, these plus the other characteristics you have don't reflect what is needed in an administrator, mainly discretion. Rudget. 12:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
8. Oppose 274 mainspace edits are not enough, you do not use the edit summary, 0 reports to AIV. Sorry, you do not have enough experience. :( —αἰτίας •discussion• 15:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
9. Oppose We need to see a significant involvement in admin-related articles; WP:CSD, WP:AIV, WP:UAA, WP:AN/I, WP:AfD and so forth. This is the only way in which the community can judge your potential skill-level if granted the tools. You also must form the habit of using edit summaries, which you do very infrequently. (You can set your preferences to remind you to do so.) For the moment I suggest you withdraw this application and re-submit in two to three months time.--Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 15:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
10. You have a total lack of experience in admin areas, have left immature comments fairly recently, and in general you do not have an incredible amount of experience. Please improve, and try again later.--SJP (talk) 16:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
11. Oppose Not much experience anywhere and poor usage of edit summaries. I suggest a few more months of experience before attempting to help out as an admin. Timmeh! 16:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Neutral

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