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01 April 2014
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Two new accounts, both obsessed with adding honorifics to the Delwar Hossain Sayeedi article. Master Suspected sock Darkness Shines (talk) 10:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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10 April 2014
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Both editors are canvassing for support at AfD, using the same style. Please note that both editors canvassed the same editor for the same article here. WP:DUCKTEST Flat Out let's discuss it 02:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Now, the same stuff has started with the Osalva account but for a similarly bad fan page at Abu Sayed Ansari Shaheb:
It's worth noting that both accounts canvassed some of the same people. Coupled with the fact that Highermafs already mentioned that some of the work was done by him and some by his friends, I think there's grounds to say that there is meatpuppet activity here if not full-blown socking. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Please note here that Osvala states that "We have added many reliable sources..." in reference to the two articles created. When he says "we" I assume he is referring to him and Highermafs.
Also, here he admits that he "created other articles about other things with another account..." Tanbircdq (talk) 11:40, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And here Osvala edits a sentence to clarify meaning on Highermafs talk page. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:44, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Then here Highermafs messages Osvala in Bengali which I think translates as;
"Stop, right now there is nothing that can be done, do not change anything of mine, there are bad people. God willing, the articles will be put again and no one will able to stop it." Tanbircdq (talk) 14:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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03 May 2014
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All of these accounts were created recently, within days of each other. The earliest, Ellodorando, was created on April 11 of this year. Rinfoli was created a day later, and Fisingi was created a week after that (on April 19).

Ellodorado's first edit was creating a user page that simply said "hi I am edoardo". Rinfoli's first edit was creating a user page that simply said "hi i am rinfoli". Fisingi's first edit was to ask about fixing the email associated with an account (understandable for a new editor I suppose) but their second edit was asking how to get a fancy signature (with color and formatting, including bolded and italicized words) to be more efficient, as seen here, and Rinfoli had just started using a fancier signature a couple days earlier (they went from a standard signature to a fancier one with color and bold/italic formatting). You'll see that Fisingi never once tried doing a fancy signature themselves, anywhere, they always used a standard signature, so clearly the question was for someone else's benefit. Fisingi also experimented on their user page to try out a fancy signature, again probably for the benefit of the Rinfoli account.

Ellodorando jumped right into trying to create an article about a Muslim scholar of Islam from Bangladesh who lectures in London. Rinfoli's first article space edits were to List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam, List of British Muslims, List of British Bangladeshis, and British Bangladeshi. Ellodorando also made an edit to List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam a day after Rinfoli did.

Fisingi's only edits (after the initial questions to people and user page experiment) were to East London Mosque and its associated talk page (beginning April 20). You can see in this discussion a bizarre back-and-forth between Fisingi and Rinfoli that to me could be a good-hand, bad-hand conversation. I'll note that their communication styles seem fairly similar in that conversation.

The connection between Ellodorando and Rinfoli goes even deeper. In addition to the above evidence, they both edited List of Islamic jurists and List of Da'is (Ellodorado edited both on April 18, Rinfoli edited both on April 21). They also both edited Azizul Haque (scholar), Ellodorado moving it twice to Azizul Haque (islamic scholar) and Rinfoli editing the main space twice (doing minor corrections).

I think that Ellodorado and Rinfoli are close enough to block per WP:DUCK. I'm not as certain about Fisingi; I have some strong suspicions per above but it's not conclusive. So I'd really appreciate if a CheckUser could verify for me whether my suspicions are unfounded or not. Also, I'm not sure that there aren't other sockpuppets I have missed in all of this. -- Atama頭 16:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I have noticed an unusually similar edit by Ellodorando here to Aldota's edit here. Like all the other user accounts in the Sockpuppet investigation, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aldota/Archive, this editor is also involved in editing on List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam as well here.

There may be a possibility that Ellodorando (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is also affiliated as all these accounts;

They all appear to have similar editing patterns on the pages; British Bangladeshi, List of British Bangladeshis, List of British Muslims, List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam. Tanbircdq (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other accounts that are possibly related:

Another common factor mentioned in an earlier ban is the insistence of adding many honorifics to names.

There is further evidence in the recent editing of the East London Mosque entry:

  • Ellodorando added "It is one of the only and first mosques in Europe which are allowed to broadcast the adhan", the same patently ridiculous claim that is made word for word on Rinfoli's user page.
  • Fisingi insisted the former chairman was in fact the president, which was Rinfoli's line in the discussion page, where he argued that chairman and president are the same.
  • Fisingi wrongly claimed (see his note on previous diff) that the list of imams had been in the article since it was created; on the talk page Rinfoli refers to this as his comment.
  • Both Fisingi and Rinfoli edited the article to say the mosque has two domes.

I should add that Rinfoli charged me with running a sockpuppet; I have not been able to clear my name yet. UsamahWard (talk) 08:43, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • information Administrator note Thanks again for the help. With all of the uncovered socks blocked, I'll mark this for closure. I also renamed the master to Aldota for archive purposes. -- Atama頭 17:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
09 May 2014
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User:Zeijani is already blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Aldota. User:Zeijanii is a fresh account with almost the same username, and is continuing User:Zeijani's conversation at Talk:List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam [1]. Psychonaut (talk) 09:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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information Administrator note Blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK. Apparently the sockmaster is thumbing their nose, as they also created User:Rinfolli (previous sock was User:Rinfoli). -- Atama頭 13:18, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

20 May 2014
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Aldota is a prolific sockpuppet. When a large batch of socks was uncovered and blocked (see here, unfortunately that case was archived to the wrong place despite Aldota being identified as the master and the page being changed to reflect the new master before closure) another 8 sockpuppets popped up, including sleepers used to get around semi-protection I'd placed at both Abdul Qayum (scholar) and East London Mosque. After those socks were blocked, things quieted down, presumably because Aldota ran out of previously-created sleepers. The semi-protection for both pages expired on the 16th of May, and 2 days after the semi-protection ended on the Abdul Qayum article, Ermejoso was created and immediately inserted information substantially similar to information that was being added by previous socks (see here, here, here, here, here, here, and here). It's almost enough to block per WP:DUCK.

There are two reasons why I'm asking for CheckUser. First, I do note the incredibly suspicious editing of this account (their first edit after the account was created, aside from creating user and user talk pages with standard templates, was to go to an article that just happened to have a semi-protection just expired, was frequented by a horde of socks previously, and reinserted the information the other socks were trying to insert). But the other articles this account has edited differ from the accounts that Aldota's socks have edited. So I'm entertaining the possibility that this is not a sock, and just want CU to confirm my suspicions. I think it would be an amazing coincidence if this wasn't a sock, but I want to be sure before I block.

Secondly, Aldota has had about 20 sockpuppets in the last couple of months. So if this is a sock, there are likely more, and they're not targeting all of the same articles as before, so aren't quite as obvious. I'd like to confirm that there aren't more socks that I'm missing.

So I'd appreciate if a CU can check. Also, I don't know if this is the right place, or if I should ask at WT:SPI/C, but I'd appreciate it if a clerk could merge this archive to this archive. It makes it inconvenient to have to look at two different pages to gather all of the history of these sockpuppets, and in addition anyone who visits this page is being misled about where the archive currently is. I'm sure it was just a simple mistake from a clerk when it got archived, these things happen, and that case was meant to be archived to the other page. -- Atama頭 17:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. Another possible sock is Nihaiatolo (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). Same as some of the other socks, the user has edited on BLPs of British Asian lawyers, and similar to the other socks the user has created user and user talk pages with "1". Tanbircdq (talk) 18:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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08 June 2014
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I'm not very familiar with this sock, but just noticed some unusual editing patterns with these two accounts. They were both editing the user page of blocked socks AwesomeSky and Hijigne. Their other edits are fine, but the focus on previously blocked accounts usually indicates another sock. Perhaps somebody more familiar with the sock can comment. Requesting a CU because previous cases have resulted in a large number of sleepers and socks found. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:37, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

86.161.105.119 more or less confirmed my suspicions by editing AwesomeSky's user page [2] and then telling me about it [3]. I blocked the IP for block evasion. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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information Administrator note I'm pretty familiar with Aldota, heck the guy even used to send me email on a regular basis. If you look here you'll see similar behavior, where he was making user page edits much like the history seen with these two socks. (That page was supposed to be archived to this archive but never did unfortunately.) And yes, typically when you find a couple of Aldota socks there are a bunch of others you didn't suspect that CU will find. -- Atama頭 15:33, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Clerk assistance requested: I have tagged all of the accounts, but we need clerk assistance for Atama's archive request above. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

15 June 2014
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Wulon has same concerns[4][5] as socks Foschik[6] and Bumbisini[7] with images of mosques in UK articles. Sole edits 10:34 - 10:43 15 June 2014. Vigiflidono, with sole edits 10:44 - 11:03 15 June 2014, has same images concern[8][9]. Both show SPI-aware traits of account creation and edits. NebY (talk) 20:21, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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01 July 2014
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Bunoso bears many signs that they are related to previous Aldota socks. Bunoso edited the biographies of Bangladeshi people, seen here, here, and here. They've taken to edit-warring at the East London Mosque article just as a horde of previous Aldota socks did, seen in this edit. Another sign that this is Aldota is with the strange obsession of creating a user page before editing, even with nonsense, or very little (in this case they just added a single letter to their user and user talk pages to create them). You can see that same behavior here and here (note that Sacupoints also felt the compulsion to create a user talk page the same way).

I'll also point out that the last edit made by Bunoso was putting back in-place the edit that was being repeatedly inserted by Trustesseson, who is also edit-warring at the East London Mosque. In addition, Trustesseson made this edit to Bradford Lakshmi Narayan Hindu Temple, which fits in with Aldota's interest in Bangladeshi people (Hindus and Muslims) in the UK (as in List of British Muslims, List of British Bangladeshis, and British Bangladeshi).

I suspect both to be socks. In the past, when a couple of Aldota socks were suspected it was found that there were more than a dozen found by CU that were under the radar. So I'd really like CU to confirm the identities of these socks, and to also find others hiding out on the project. -- Atama頭 15:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • One more piece of evidence; these two accounts were created a day apart from each other, one on June 29, the other on June 30. If there are other accounts found by CU, I wouldn't be surprised if they were created around the same time as that. -- Atama頭 15:58, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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This might be another one as like previous socks it is involved in editing on Allamah.

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3 July 2014
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As per User:Atama's findings here, same "obsession of creating... before editing... their user and user talk pages." First edit after this was opening a sockpuppet investigation involving a user who has commented on this investigation about him. Within the investigation he refers to the article Rizwan Hussain, a subject who he has confirmed having COI with here. Tanbircdq (talk) 19:35, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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09 July 2014
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The edit to my talk page and the other account's user page show the focus on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tanbircdq. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This person is continuing the same editing activity but is now choosing to IP hop on throwaway IPs that he does not appear to reuse. Some of his known IP addresses may include the following (although there are probably plenty more undetected ones out there): Tanbircdq (talk) 10:01, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It may be worth investigating the possibility of a range block or an edit filter but given the wide variety of IP addresses, I guess there probably is not much chance of this. Tanbircdq (talk) 10:01, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, range blocks aren't feasible. The ranges he edits from can be seen here and here. Those are massive Class B network ranges comprising of millions of possible addresses. It would be like range-blocking a quarter of the population of London (if you thought of each address as a person). It's not an option. -- Atama頭 20:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-administrator comment) "It would be like range-blocking a quarter of the population of London" I think that's an excellent idea. I doubt anyone besides the sockmaster would notice. If it were an issue, this could begin WMF engagement with the ISPs for them to deal with the ne'er-do-well using their networks. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:02, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Just reporting for the record as we don't many IPs from this user. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

16 July 2014
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Same disruptive edit on List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam: Special:Diff/617171370. Newly created account establishing similar user and talk pages upon creation, as per WP:DUCK. UsamahWard (talk) 22:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Aldota was involved in a edit war using his throwaway IPs on List of British Muslims and List of British Bangladeshis despite my attempts to engage in a discussion on the talk page to resolve the matter. He is refusing to reply to the points I have raised on the matter and is just repeatedly reverting my edit as well as of User:The Newspaper.[10][11][12][13][14] Then here Bogoliopo moved Rizwan Hussain back to the same section the IPs were, followed by one of his IPs doing the same thing here. If there is any doubt about the IPs being the same person you can see a link from the evidence of his contributions here and here.

Bogoliopo decided to edit other pages before creating the usual blank user page. Interesting enough an IP swore in Bengali (translating as calling him a son of a unprincipled man) to User:LeoFrank here which LeoFrank thought was Bogoliopo here although Bogoliopo denies it here. Whereas you can see during this investigation that I noted one of Aldota's socks has messaged another sock in Bengali here which User:Flat Out spotted here.

Doelanha reverted back to type by creating a user and talk page with 'j'. He then reverted back an edit on List of modern-day Muslim scholars of Islam (just like his many other sock accounts have done so previously) after he was involved in an edit war using throwaway IPs.

ON A SIDE NOTE:
He has been contacting editors to try to obtain inside knowledge on how to evade getting blocked: Whilst speaking Italian with User:Salvio giuliano he pretends that he has created many accounts on Facebook but this is a ruse for asking if checkusers can determine whether an IP is dynamic or static here, Salvio giuliano responds by advising about WP:SOCK and WP:OFFER, this is proven to be him by his contributions here. He has no intention of doing this of course so then asks User:Amalthea in German about discovering the IP statistics here, which is proven to be him by his contributions here. Here he asks User:Ponyo if he can change his IP for editing on Wikipedia. (I have not found anything of him speaking to an editor in Dutch yet as he claims to have also lived in the Netherlands here).

If both these accounts are proven to be socks (MAKING IT HIS 48TH AND 49TH ACCOUNTS SO FAR) then if lifting this ban is ever considered as per WP:OFFER, please note the following statement by this person does NOT hold much weight here; "I try to avoid sockpuppetry (i asked forgiveness to an admin and he said me to wait few month.)" Not to mention his hypocrisy considering he falsely accused me of lying during the month of Ramadan (which is from 28/29 June until 28/29 July 2014) here.

I also request all editors who have had run-ins with Aldota to weigh in with your thoughts on how to deal with this ongoing problem or at least add this page to their watchlist for future activity including; User:Atama, User:Darkness Shines, User:UsamahWard, User:Callanecc. User:MezzoMezzo, User:Psychonaut, User:Gogo Dodo, User:NebY, User:GorgeCustersSabre, User:Manspacey, User:Dougweller, User:Demiurge1000 and anyone else I may have missed out. Tanbircdq (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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13 January 2015
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Suspected sockpuppets

The accounts User:‎8uwhddhoidjoi, User:Ulopodoko, User:Rimidogla were all created within the same day with the usual minimal user pages information, and edited the articles Abu Sayed Ansary, Jilani Chowdhury, List of British Bangladeshis and List of British Muslims.

User:Unploafti, User:Assimifne, User:Truthiseveryminghnj, User:Tinojipolo and User:Lopoponsnko all created again with the usual minimal user pages information and edited regarding the article The University of Law.

Also created again with the usual minimal user pages information, User:Wokolpalni edited on London Plan (as did Truthiseveryminghnj) and User:Uolpalnaolo edited on the article Golden triangle (universities) (as did Assimifne).

I also request all editors who have had run-ins with Aldota to weigh in with your thoughts on how to deal with this ongoing problem or at least add this page to their watchlist for future activity including; @Atama, Darkness Shines, UsamahWard, Callanecc, MezzoMezzo, Psychonaut, and Gogo Dodo: @NebY, GorgeCustersSabre, Manspacey, Dougweller, Demiurge1000, A P Monblat, and Nricardo:.Tanbircdq (talk) 00:00, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suspected User:Assimifne and User:Truthiseveryminghnj earlier and a host of IP-addresses 217.42.219.127 (talk · contribs), 217.42.218.35 (talk · contribs), 217.42.221.111 (talk · contribs) and 217.42.219.169 (talk · contribs) linked to these accounts.--Peaceworld 22:43, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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User:Rimidogla and User:Assimifne are obvious duck accounts, as they had voted keep for a very bad page(Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) saying that has a lot of sources(both counted lot), their first change on this website was the creation of user page[15]-[16] then talk page.[17]-[18] Bladesmulti (talk) 09:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The following accounts are  Stale:

:*Rimidogla (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

  • The following are  Confirmed Aldota socks:
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