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October 14[edit]

Template:KK Ibar roster[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:51, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:KK Ibar roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template without any blue links for players or staff The Banner talk 22:21, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

merge with the article, then delete Frietjes (talk) 18:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Student Newspapers of the Sun Belt Conference[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Student Newspapers of the Sun Belt Conference (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

once you remove the external links, it navigates very little, better served by a list article or a category. Frietjes (talk) 21:51, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, navboxes are meant to navigate between internal links.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 00:06, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Zakāt[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Zakāt (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 21:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tel (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:36, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sag[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sag (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:33, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Pratheep[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:30, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pratheep (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

redundant to {{CC-SA-3.0}}, and no longer used after I replaced it in several files tagged for being moved to commons (which doesn't have this template, so this would have caused problems during move). Frietjes (talk) 17:31, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Earth: Final Conflict[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Earth: Final Conflict (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Over the last couple of weeks the bulk of articles formerly linked by this template have been deleted. It no longer serves any navigational purpose since the lead article for the show links the little remaining material together. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Que[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Que (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I considered it a good idea at the time, and still think it has value even though it hasn't been adopted (aww). No argument from me one way or the other though. Is there another more suitable template that would serve the same or similar purpose? This template's creator - fredgandt 06:26, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

the standard template is Template:Clarify Frietjes (talk) 18:24, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And there appear many more specific variants linked on its page. I stand by my decision at the time to provide a one size fits all solution for a great swath of possibilities, but as stated am not going to cry about its demise if that's what's happening :-) I'm too busy doing other things. fredgandt 17:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fre[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:32, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fre (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Csu[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 October 26. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Chg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Chg (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, {{chg}} should probably become part of {{change}}, i.e. an alternate option to {{change2}}. See proof of concept in sandbox. — Christoph Päper 21:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:RCA Mariology[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:31, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RCA Mariology (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:RCS Mariology (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:RCA Mariology with Template:RCS Mariology.
significant overlap, no need for two sidebars. Frietjes (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Portal/Images[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Portal/Images (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I think this template and all of its subtemplates can be deleted now, as the portal images are now held in the module namespace. A lot of these are now out-of-date and leaving them here may cause confusion. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:09, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: could you comment here and confirm these are no longer needed? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Martin is right - they have been superseded by the subpages of Module:Portal/images, and I don't see any reason to keep them around. If there are any transclusions remaining, they should be replaced with {{#invoke:portal|image|portal name}}, which gets the image name from the relevant submodule. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:45, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've just noticed that {{subject bar}} still uses the old Template:Portal/Images pages. That template really needs to be replaced by a Lua module, though, rather than using the above code 10 separate times. I'll see if I can't rustle something up. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:18, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And I've now created Module:Subject bar. Still needs testing and documentation, but it looks to be working quite well from my tests so far. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 17:02, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And Module:Subject bar is now up live. That should get rid of the last of the transclusions after they filter through the job queue. (That might take a while, though.) If anyone notices anywhere else where these templates are transcluded, please let me know. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. LT910001 (talk) 23:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete after due process. They all need be tagged with {{tfd}} so that concerned users are notified. 117Avenue (talk) 05:11, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That would be quite a lot of work - there are about 1500 of them. Also, they transclude the name of the image only, so if anything else was transcluded inside the image subtemplates it would probably break the image links. Tagging the portal templates would probably be a better option, but {{portal}} brings its own problems - it has 5 million+ transclusions, so tagging it for TfD would cause a big load to the job queue. If anyone can think of a good way of working around this, though, I'm all ears. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:18, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would think AWB could handle it. If these templates aren't being used, there's nothing to break, but you could use noincludes just to be safe anyways. 117Avenue (talk) 04:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is simply no need to tag these 1500 templates. I doubt anyone will be watching them anyway. This discussion has been advertised at Template talk:Portal and this should be sufficient. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:59, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As my comments on Template talk:Portal can attest to, I had a few subtemplates on my watchlist before I was shocked to find out that the main template was usurping them. Can you be absolutely sure that all the subtemplates have been added to the lists in the module? 117Avenue (talk) 04:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I found another couple of templates using the old system: Template:WikiProject workgroup box and Template:WikiProject box — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now converted these two. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here's anorther template using the images, Template:NBbox -- WOSlinker (talk) 11:12, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've converted that one. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:05, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:WikiProject Intelligence[edit]

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:36, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject Intelligence (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant template. Project redirects to the Intelligence task force of WP:MILHIST. JJ98 (Talk) 04:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Convert to redirect to {{WikiProject Espionage}}, since that's an actual wikiproject that covers intelligence. Not just military intelligence. -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 04:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above comment. --LT910001 (talk) 09:54, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've been adding this to articles where relevant, but I'd be perfectly happy to redirect to {{WikiProject Espionage}}, since they're almost synonyms for the same thing anyway. Robofish (talk) 23:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Having left unanswered comments at both project talk pages some years ago, and having had a comment with others at Hong Kong wikimania that something needed to be done, good to see something is being done satusuro 23:52, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to {{WikiProject Espionage}}, a more accurate project for this template.- tucoxn\^talk 10:01, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Lists of rail accidents[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Lists of rail accidents (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template functions as a navbox but is not formatted as such; it appears to be a duplicate of the navbox Template:Rail accidents. Set theorist (talk) 02:35, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE - The template is designed to organize each list separately. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Why do we need two templates with the same content, formatted differently, on each article? Mackensen (talk) 03:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Duplicates table on article page. Lamberhurst (talk) 07:28, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
keep the template, but merge the "" into the template; which appears on the pages, which btw. is a totally mess. See List of rail accidents (1900–29), List of rail accidents (before 1880). Christian75 (talk) 21:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant to a better designed navbox.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete per eh bien mon prince. — Lfdder (talk) 02:08, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
~~keep for now~~ the compact TOCs, which are a slight evolution of something I knocked together years ago before the lists were split into time periods, ought to be made into proper templates that take a heading parameter and a parameter for the decade of each line to generate the year links/or decade links where appropriate. I'm sure a structure like that must be useful to other articles on Wikipeida. It should also include either links to the other articles directly or a link to the navigation template ("other years" or something perhaps). Doing that is beyond my skill level though. Once that is done, then the present lists template will be redundant but it is not redundant currently. Thryduulf (talk) 12:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, thanks to the good work of Frietjes this is now redundant. The custom compact TOCs were a good solution in 2005 but templates capabilities have moved on and Template:Lists of rail accidents years does the job much better. Thryduulf (talk) 00:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE - Clearly redundant. Bhtpbank (talk) 15:52, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, I acted on Thryduulf and Christian75's suggestion and created Template:Lists of rail accidents years to fix the table of contents problem. this template is now redundant and can be history merged with the one that I created. Frietjes (talk) 23:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- We need something for Lists of rail accidents as well (I'm not awake enough to do anything myself now), but when that's done I'll strike my above vote. Good work Frietjes. Thryduulf (talk) 00:08, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Thryduulf: for Lists of rail accidents, it's probably best to just list the lists in the text, since it's so short? I made an edit to demonstrate. Frietjes (talk) 00:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Frietjes: yes that looks good - by "something" above I literally did mean "something" rather than a specific template, I'm just not awake enough to have thought of something as simple as that! Thryduulf (talk) 00:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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