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Summary of New Zealand national rugby league team test matches

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Article relys on a single source, article is strangely formatted and isn't consistent with other similar articles, case for WP:TNT so a proper List of New Zealand national rugby league team results can be created.

Previously PRODed, and was reverted on the basis that the article could be improved and that I as PRODed nominator had changed the name of the page. Yes, article could be improved, but there is virtually nothing novel or useful on this page so don't see why edit history needs retaining for a new article "List of New Zealand national rugby league team results". Articles name was changed to better reflect the article content. But in reality, it is so far away from the standard way to display a list of national team results that it's best to be deleted. To fix this page would involve removing 99% of the content anyway. Mn1548 (talk) 08:04, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby league and New Zealand. Shellwood (talk) 10:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fletcher Myers

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No significant coverage, all sources are databases or non-independent Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Rugby league, and Australia. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: Young player who has recently made his debut, likely more sources will be available in near future. Mn1548 (talk) 08:19, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you are really arguing for here seems to be a draftification. We can't have articles that don't have significant coverage at the moment (WP:TOOSOON / WP:CRYSTAL). Geschichte (talk) 12:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Professional NRL player who debuted and scored points (conversions and tries), sources present and can be added, a lot of other similar articles of young NRL players have less sources (e.g. Jesse McLean) ChampsRT (Profile • Talk) 01:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I can't see the point in deleting now and then re-adding when we have the end of year reviews in a month. Doctorhawkes (talk) 03:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barney McLure

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Non notable player, would fall under WP:NSPORT. No sources beside passing coverage in stat sheets, and an obituary. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 22:19, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Rugby league, and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 22:53, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning Keep. Trove brings up some things that look decent, particularly [1] and [2]; also [3] and [4]. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Löschen~~ : The sources from the Trove archive in the comment above seem fine, enough to at least build a basic article about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 02:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The sources from the Trove archive in the comment above seem fine, enough to at least build a basic article about this person - @Oaktree b: Are you sure you want it deleted then? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Minimal coverage (including the Trove sources). 6 appearance isn't really a notable rugby career. Mn1548 (talk) 08:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, oh boy, I think I clicked on the wrong button the first time. Oaktree b (talk) 11:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I appreciate the Trove references, but to my mind they do not go far enough beyond what is in article to establish notability per WP:NSPORT: as a young man from Jindabyne he was selected to play for a club side; he played injured and had to come off; he was chosen to play fullback; he didn’t get a suspension after being sent off. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 03:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The sources from Trove look rather routine. LibStar (talk) 04:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tongan National Rugby League

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Article has a signle reference which isn't actually anything to do with the article subject. Google searching the topic only returns the Wikipedia and the Facebook page. "Official Website" is a GoDaddy domain sale site. Mn1548 (talk) 12:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby league and Oceania. Shellwood (talk) 13:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep (provisionally) on grounds of WP:NEXISTS (sort of).~~redirect to Tonga National Rugby League. Deletion not the best outcome because this article pre-exists the redirect target -- the target started as a redirect to this article -- and we should retain the history.

This article [5] tells part of the story - they got kicked out of the International Rugby League and had no support from the Tonga government. And this [6] from last week says Tonga has been readmitted under new management. The second one is primary, and I haven't found a source that reported the announcement although I have seen articles about the Tonga team already scheduled for matches.

Adding to the confusion, in 2013 a retired editor may have had a tendency to unconstructively edit rugby pages, e.g., [7]. This diff shows what was added to the article, suggesting that even if though it wasn't a hoax to begin with it became one later. TNRL Global Insurance redirect should probably be deleted.

So deleting the article right now may leave them with no article for the team. The article as it stands is a hot mess, but it exists and could perhaps be salvaged.

Happy to hear further views on this. Oblivy (talk) 11:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have confused the subject of this AfD with Tonga National Rugby League. This AfD is for the competition Tongan National Rugby League where as the sources provided relate to the governing body which is linked first. Mn1548 (talk) 17:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or this may just be me getting confused on the differences between revision. In that case a redirect to Tonga National Rugby League could be a better option (for now) so at least the page history is still there for anyone who wants to attempt to salvage it. Mn1548 (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is helpful.

As I understand it, Tonga National Rugby League was created as a redirect to Tongan National Rugby League by the person who had at the time renamed Tongan to TNRL Global Insurance Cup. Then Tonga was rebuilt as a good faith article while TNRL/Tongan remained a piece of trash article.

So the proper thing would be to delete Tongan and then Tonga needs to be updated? I still think the TNRL redirect page is unlikely to be of any value.

Note: I haven't included diffs as this is all quite convoluted. But the history of the articles around 2013 shows the moves by @Renamed user 9r8u7g6b5y4n3r2l1 Oblivy (talk) 23:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I still feel deletion is the best course of action. The Tonga article is clearly about the governing body whereas the TongaN article is trying to be both the governing body and competition AND is unsourced. Plus I can't find anything to suggest the competition is notable as a stand alone article. Mn1548 (talk) 10:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed my vote to redirect. The history of these articles is messy and I don't really feel like pulling them apart to see if there's any common history. A redirect is pretty harmless and it could pass for accidental misspelling if you don't view edit history. Oblivy (talk) 01:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This is a confusing situation with two articles with nearly identical page titles. A few more opinions here would be welcome.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:01, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Magic Weekend results

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While the Magic Weekend is special, the results aren't. There is no statistical importance, no link between the results, no extra trophy, ... Basically WP:NOTSTATS, no indication why the results from this weekend are more noteworthy Fram (talk) 07:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby league, Lists, and United Kingdom. Fram (talk) 07:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep A list of stats doesn't really have any impact on readability and this article has the stats placed into the context of Magic Weekend per WP:NOTSTATS. WP:GNG is debatable to whether these stats are notable. Mn1548 (talk) 09:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If this article is deleted, a removal of results from Magic Round (NRL) and Summer Bash will be needed. Mn1548 (talk) 09:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus here yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:39, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per WP:NOTSTATS. LibStar (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 21:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]