Hallo Hannolans, danke für die Erstellung von Anton Joseph Hammerschmidt (Q111447400). Zwei Bitten: Kannst du bei den Datumsangaben, falls im ''Biographischen Lexikon der Münzmeister'' "ca." steht, entsprechend "Nachweisumstände: circa" nachtragen? Falls du den Datenbestand noch in OpenRefine hast, wäre es außerdem eine große Hilfe, wenn du die GNDs ergänzt. Bei 1.062 Datenobjekten mit MMLO-ID (P6240) fehlen sie; zu viele, um die Arbeit von Hand zu erledigen.
Hannolans
Joined 12 June 2013
PS: I just saw that you speak Dutch. Sorry for writing in German.
Hi Kolja21, I have added the GND identifiers for 1500 persons with this batch https://iw.toolforge.org/quickstatements/#.2Fbatch.2F213789 About circa, I will have a look, I'm not sure if I can do that easily.
Great work! I checked a few and the entries are all ok.
Hallo Hannolans, I've just found one of the few import error (Q27044511: done). Today there are about 450 items with MMLO ID (P6240) missing an authorty file (GND), see https://w.wiki/B3MR. Can you take these items into account when you next use QuickStatements?
An {{Q|43229}} is not necessarily a {{Q|16334295}}. Consider the United Nations, which is an organization and not a group of humans. So I am again going to remove this subclass link in the near future.
The UN is an organisation with many humans employed, so a group of humans.
How so? If the UN is a group of humans then each of these humans is an instance of the UN, which you might (but might not) think of a member of the UN. But no human meets this criterion. If the UN has instances then these are the member states of the UN - so the UN is in no reasonable way a group of humans. Just because some item is an employee of some organization doesn't make them a member of that organization, let alone an instance of that organization.
Consider even an organization that might be thought of as having humans as instances - for example some sort of social club. The employees of that organization are not necessarily members of the organization, and definitely not necessarily instances of the organization.
States are the members of the UN, but humans are employees of the UN. They meet, they eat, they create works together like books and reports.
But the humans are definitely not instances of the United Nations, so the UN should not be a subclass of group of humans. Neither are the employees or directors or shareholders instances of a company, so again not a subclass of group of humans.
It depends if you see organisations as an organised team of humans that work together for a certain goal, for example the goals of the United Nations, or if you see organisations as a legal concept.
Hi Hannolans, I've just picked up an old error of yours, in Susan Close (Q7647681), the South Australian politician - you added Canadian citizenship as you have confused her with a Canadian academic, photographer and write with the same first and last names - see https://www.susanclose.com/about. These are two different people. I've removed the false info from Susan Close (Q7647681), but as I'm unfamiliar with Wikidata I'll leave you to chase up the other person's entry, if it exists.
Cheers, Bahudhara
thanks! I created Q127599278
Hey Hanno Hans,
does OpenRefine allow for additional parsers? The artist's webpage at V2 is usually behind More: (CSS selector: #parent-fieldname-text > p:nth-child(3)).
Greetings
Hi I don't understand exactly what you mean?
I've went through your import of V2 archive (Q125729237). It could be enriched with more information which is behind some CSS selectors.
What kind of information?
The artist's webpage.
Ah, yes that might be useful
Hi Hanno,
please add the given names of the fashion designers which lack from many items (e.g. M. Laimböck (Q126961705) and H. Laimböck (Q126962191)). Without them it is difficult to find anything meaningful to expand the information!
Hi, yeah we will try together with the museums to complete those profiles the coming weeks.
Hey, I noticed that you had addded statements like birth and death date to Geelen, Christian van, the Elder (Q104085904) which is about an encyclopedia article. I moved the statements to Christiaan van Geelen (Q15963834) which is about the person.
Ah thanks! my mistake!
With this edit you have added a reference to https://www.boijmans.nl/en/collection/artists/14208 for the date of death "6 June 1677". But the day and month do not seem to be supported by the source. I will remove the reference for now. But does this issue appear for other items as well? Could you have a look? Thanks in advance!
Hm, checked and in openrefine it was a year only. Probably a good idea that I create a page for Boijmans to check artists with multiple birth dates as I have done her Wikidata:CopyClear/NADD/monitor/dubbele geboortedata
So this might be a bug in the matching by OpenRefine?
Not sure, probably a fuzzy merging setting, but I can't find this as the dates were not in the scheme anymore. Anyway, I created a page with double birth dates for Boijmans. Monitoring: Wikidata:CopyClear/NADD/Boijmans/dubbele geboortedata en Wikidata:CopyClear/NADD/Boijmans/dubbele overlijdensdata
I guess this is less about double dates and more about the precision. Does Boijmans provide any dates more precise than a year? If not removing all Boijmans references from more precise dates could fix the problem.
They provide both. I don't think this is a huge problem as I don't see other mistakes, I do see several mistakes from some Belgium museums. As I don't see those wrong years in the source I delete them.
Hi, I think these two distinct people with similar lifespans had become blended. I have created a new Q125897836 for the painter. I notice there is more biographical information about him at [http://www.oldcambrians.com/RMS.html], though a blog presenting original research.
yes I see that these persons were merged in 2021. Looks correct now!
Hey, do you know what is going on with these following four photographer items named "Pit" created by you in 2020? For some reason all of them have separate ADAGP pages. Based on the label and years of birth and death they might be referring to Ellen Auerbach (Q71466). Should I merge them?
Yes, good catch! And yes, See this is Ellen Auerbach in https://pictoright.nl/gebruikers/ledenlijst/
Beste Hannolans ,
Het aanmaken van dit Wikidata-item, terwijl er geen gegevens werden meegeleverd, die het redelijkerwijs mogelijk maken om dit te linken aan andere gegevens over iemand die op Wikidata staat of zou kunnen staan, beschouw ik als een soort van vandalisme.
Het feit dat een (verkorte) naam ergens in een vaag verband genoemd is, is geen reden voor opname op Wikidata.
"Den" is (in dit geval) zeker niet een voornaam, "Den Tex" is een achternaam die door vele mensen toen en nu gedragen is en wordt, waaronder fotografen. Het is volgens mij niet constructief om op basis van een vage vermelding op een op zich relevante website/database, dit Wikidata-item aan te maken.
Ook Wikidata heeft criteria, dat niet alles, dat ergens genoemd wordt, zomaar op Wikidata gedumpt mag worden.
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Dit is de naam van een auteur die voorkomt in de collectie het NIOD. Het gaat om de burgemeester van Bloemendaal jhr. mr. C.J.A. den Tex https://actorenregister.nationaalarchief.nl/actor-persoon/tex-burgemeester-jhr-mr-cja-den-te-bloemendaal. Bij de upload staat de link naar de collectie van de herkomst van deze naam die helaas alleen luidt 'den Tex' en ik zie dat de het item daarna gewijzigd is van is een 'mens' naar 'achternaam'
De meeste oorlogscollecties in Nederland hebben helaas nog geen uitgebreide persoonsgegevens. Het project dat we doen met de oorlogsmusea is proberen de vervaardigers te verrijken. Je kunt er meer over lezen in het https://smh40-45.nl/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/cluster3_projectplan.pdf Deltaplan collectieontsluiting oorlogsmusea- en herinneringscentra. Ik zal er een 'op focuslijst Wikimedialijst' bij plaatsen zodat dat duidelijk is dat deze items daarvan afkomstig zijn.
ik heb de info verbeterd