I was not able to replicate this myself.

Do you consistently see them when editing using the normal wikitext editor, or visual editor?

Note that abuse filter warnings are just based on time – once you've seen a specific warning once, you won't see it again for a while (I don't remember how long). They don't "track" your current editor or editing session. Maybe you've just seen them recently in another editor, and that's why they don't appear again.

AIUI, the actual bug here is the page going gray instead of displaying a warning message. The warning only appearing once is how the warnings are supposed to work.

Also, this is not AF-specific -- if AF warnings aren't shown, then no kind of errors are probably shown, including TB, SB, etc.

@matmarex - in the cases where the reporter says they did not get a warning, it was logged as such - and required them to re-commit the save.

So that's why the gray. Thanks.

That's not my experience. The first time it happened to me I hadn't given
one for a while.
Doug

Thanks for the replies, I have a few more questions:

1. What do you actually mean by the page going gray? The striped loading animation after clicking "Reply" (see below), or something else?
   

2. Does this only occur for AbuseFilter warnings, or also other kinds of messages (e.g. AbuseFilter errors, SpamBlacklist errors?)

3. If would be very helpful if you could provide a screenshot, or video, of what you're seeing. You can upload images and short videos (there's a file size limit) here on Phabricator, by copy-pasting them into the comment text field, or by clicking on the toolbar.

For what it's worth, I have tested on my own talk page, and got the warning as expected:

The reply button goes gray as does the striped loading animation. That
always happens when I click on reply, the difference being that if it's
actually a reply it still goes through after the delay, if it's a DS alert
I have to click on reply again.
Another interesting thing. I just replied to someone and the result was
that they had made another comment at the same time and my reply ended up
being to their second comment, and as my reply said I agreed with them it
appeared to be a reply to their second comment.
I have no idea how to do a video, and although I often do copies of screens
or parts of screens with an OCR tool, I'm not sure how to do a screen shot
and capture it. I probably used to know before I got the tool I use.

@DougWeller I can't help regarding video, but on en.wp there are instructions for screenshots at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Screenshots_of_Wikipedia (if you are sharing the image here (phabricator) you don't need to worry about the licensing template or uploading to Commons, just click the upload file button (up arrow on what I think is meant to be a cloud?) in the toolbar once you've saved your screenshot.

Of course. It's fast enough. So I add a topic and see
[image: image.png]
Then when I click to publish it
[image: image.png]
No warning to check anything.

I no longer see the animation bars, but the basic problem persists.

@DougWeller It might seem silly, but… can you try logging out and then logging back in, and then test this again? I've had a look at the code that controls whether AbuseFilter warnings are shown, and its behavior is connected to your current login session. Perhaps something got stuck in a bad state or something.

@matmarex Done. Click on new topic,, type in manually the template for the alert, hit "add new topic", see the animation bars and then without anything intervening it's posted.

In T298263#7648839, @DougWeller wrote:

@matmarex Done. Click on new topic,, type in manually the template for the alert, hit "add new topic", see the animation bars and then without anything intervening it's posted.

@DougWeller: we appreciate you continuing to help us try to reproduce/debug the issue you are experiencing.

Considering we have not yet been able to reproduce this issue [i], I'm going to remove this ticket as blocking T296645. I recognize you continuing to experience this issue is not ideal. Tho, it's difficult for us to solve an issue we ourselves have not yet been able to reproduce.

i. I just tried reproducing this issue with both the Reply and New Discussion Tools:

(There's a new attempt to debug this ongoing at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Talk_pages_project#c-Doug_Weller-20220721091800-New_topic_doesn't_seem_to_play_well_with_DS_alerts.)

Example screen shot with "new topic"

Change 816819 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; author: Bartosz Dziewoński):

[mediawiki/extensions/DiscussionTools@master] ReplyWidget: Scroll save error into view after showing it

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/816819

@matmarex the reply-tool part in the original report was occurring with a "grey out" box though, the off screen is only for the possibly related "add topic" part (not sure if this task should be split?)

Change 816819 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/DiscussionTools@master] ReplyWidget: Scroll save error into view after showing it

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/816819

The patch affects them both (sorry, I realize now that this wasn't clear from the commit message), and I think the bugs also affected them both.

This now works, it scrolls so I can see the warning (using add topic).