Wes Streeting verbally butchered by Nick Ferrari in 'working person' clash live on air
Wes Streeting was interviewed by Nick Ferrari on LBC, and the pair clashed over what defines a "working person".
Wes Streeting was left tongue-tied after being asked to define what a "working person" is following the release of the Labour Party manifesto.
Sir Keir Starmer's party has said that "taxes will not go up for working people".
But LBC host Nick Ferrari was quick to point out to the Shadow Health Secretary that wealthy people such as David Beckham and Lord Sugar could also be classed as working people.
Ferrari asked Mr Streeting: "Can you define a working person? Lord Sugar is working, David Beckham is working, so their taxes won't go up?"
Mr Streeting responded: "We're thinking particularly about income tax, National Insurance, and VAT. We've spelled that out.
"Most of us in this country are working people. We're thinking about people on lower-middle incomes."
However, Ferrari pointed out that the manifesto does not specifically mention lower-middle income people. Mr Streeting pointed to the labour manifesto and urged people to read it to find a definition.
Mr Streeting maintained that Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves has "spelled out exactly what she means by that with her tax triple lock".
He added: "She's not going to put up income tax. She's not going to put up National Insurance. She's not going to put up VAT, because we think that working people have had their pockets picked repeatedly by the Conservatives."
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Ferrari also clashed with Mr Streeting on Labour's stance on pensions, which the presenter pointed out was vague and not necessarily committing to anything.
Asked to clarify what a "review of the pension landscape" referred to in the manifesto actually means, Mr Streeting called it an "absolutely necessary longer-term review". Ferrari suggested that would result in people being "clobbered in tax".
The Labour MP maintained that taxes would not increase following the "review", adding that it is a measure to take into consideration the growing ageing population and shrinking working age population of the country.