Wikidata:Property proposal/Date of resignation
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Date of resignation
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization
Description | Date of official resignation of the head of a Government in parliamentary-based States, triggering the Government to stay in place until the formation of a new Executive |
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Represents | resignation (Q796919) |
Data type | Point in time |
Domain | government (Q7188) |
Allowed values | any date comprised between inception (P571) and dissolved, abolished or demolished date (P576) |
Example 1 | Balbo Cabinet (Q3773797) → |
Example 2 | Government of the 2nd Legislature of Spain (Q2303361) → |
Example 3 | Pompidou Cabinet (Q940230) → |
See also |
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Wikidata project | WikiProject Politics (Q58484874) |
Motivation
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This property is needed for all Governments that operate in parliamentary-based systems, since the date of resignation might differ considerably from the date in which the new Government takes place (see for instance Andreotti I Cabinet (Q3111866), that operated fully only from to , but stayed in place until ). Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 13:57, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]Support We need this property.--Ferdi2005[Mail] 14:47, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Support --ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Support --Jmmuguerza (talk) 17:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Neutral; honestly, can't see the need of it. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 06:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC).
Kommentar not really convinced. The problem is that many terms of office or functions end with a resignation and these end sometimes later (at a date specific with "end date"). While the resignation statement (with the planned end date) can be used as a reference, I don't think there is much added by including these also in our already packed P39 statements with a qualifier. For the above usecase, I think significant event (Property:P793) can easily capture this. Maybe there are aspects I omitted. --- Jura 11:14, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
with current wording given that it doesn't specify whether we are talking about the day the resignation was announced and the day the resignation is official and no attempt is made to model the distinction. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 20:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Oppose
- @ChristianKl: Of course I mean the date of official resignation, that is when the Head of Government presents their resignation to the Head of State and the latter accepts it, inviting the former to stay in charge until the formation of a new Government. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 12:29, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sannita: What you mean isn't central, we are discussing about what you proposed in the "description" part of the proposal. If there's the potential for different people understanding different things that leads to bad data and is a reason to reject the proposal in it's current form. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 20:24, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- @ChristianKl: Description fixed. Better? Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 11:53, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I
Support it in this form. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 17:51, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I
- @ChristianKl: Description fixed. Better? Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 11:53, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sannita: What you mean isn't central, we are discussing about what you proposed in the "description" part of the proposal. If there's the potential for different people understanding different things that leads to bad data and is a reason to reject the proposal in it's current form. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 20:24, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- @ChristianKl: Of course I mean the date of official resignation, that is when the Head of Government presents their resignation to the Head of State and the latter accepts it, inviting the former to stay in charge until the formation of a new Government. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 12:29, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Support, an important property for the politics.--Arbnos (talk) 21:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Oppose per above. significant event (P793) can easily capture these steps. --- Jura 04:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sannita, Ferdi2005, ProtoplasmaKid, Jmmuguerza, Nomen ad hoc, Jura1: @ChristianKl, Arbnos:
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Erledigt as date of resignation (P9667). --UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 02:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)