Wikidata:Property proposal/MNBAQ ID
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MNBAQ artwork ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
Description | numerical identifier for an artwork on the website of the Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec |
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Represents | Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec (Q2338135) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | work of art (Q838948) |
Allowed values | \d+ |
Example 1 | La Mise au tombeau (Q59563619) → 600007226 |
Example 2 | Noémie, Eugénie, Antoinette et Séphora Hamel, nièces de l'artiste (Q59559938) → 600011095 |
Example 3 | Olé ! (Q59555924) → 600001727 |
Source | https://collections.mnbaq.org/fr/recherche |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Planned use | Template:Arts links (Q45312151) |
Formatter URL | https://collections.mnbaq.org/fr/oeuvre/$1 |
See also | MNBAQ artist ID (P8336) |
Motivation
[edit]This new Wikidata property to identify artworks (Q44847669) would be quite useful, given the important size of Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec. Thierry Caro (talk) 20:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit] Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts.
Notified participants of WikiProject Canada. Thierry Caro (talk) 20:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Support - PKM (talk) 20:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Support --Fralambert (talk) 20:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Support - Deror avi (talk) 21:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Oppose incomplete proposal. The proposal inaccurately has Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec (Q2338135) about the museum as its main subject (|subject item=) while the proposal is for use as of its website and/or one of its databases or catalogues. In order to be of use to Wikidata, Help:Sources#Databases requires an item about the resource itself. This should be created before a property is proposed.
As mentioned, we now have many requests on Wikidata:Bot requests where similar items are missing and bot operators can't determine what resource of a given organization was used. While it may seem trivial, it was found in the past that even proposers can't create such items easily. Further, this avoids that people repurpose properties from one resource of an organization to another. --- Jura 10:21, 22 December 2020 (UTC)- We don't have D:POINT (WP:POINT), but this oppose sure looks like a case of it! Multichill (talk) 19:39, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- I think the item is needed. Do you disagree? --- Jura 22:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Besides, people used to create them fairly routinely for proposals. Not sure when that became somewhat inconsistent. --- Jura 22:22, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Support Amqui (talk) 21:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
@Thierry Caro, PKM, Fralambert, Deror avi, Multichill: done. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 22:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC).
- @Amqui: same. And enjoy Jura1, Thierry created an item about the collection! Nomen ad hoc (talk) 22:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC).
- @Nomen ad hoc: why wouldn't be discuss this first? It seems they didn't actually understand my comment. --- Jura 09:17, 27 January 2021 (UTC)