Wikidata:Property proposal/part of other combined lexeme

From Wikidata
Jump to navigation Jump to search

‎part of other combined lexeme

[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

   Not done

Motivation

[edit]

This property can be used to specify that components of a compound lexeme A appear due to another compound lexeme B actually being used within A. It is particularly important whenever the components coming from B are disconnected, reordered (as in the first two examples), or inflected (as in the last two examples) within A. Mahir256 (talk) 16:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

[edit]
  • Comment: The use case in the first two examples is clear, but I am having trouble seeing what advantages using a property like this for continguous compounds offers. If the reason is to avoid adding forms on the compound lexeme, it doesn't negate the reasons to add forms for any other reason than in combines statements. For example, in order to put statements for "subject form" on usage examples on a given compound, it makes sense to have that form present. Simple compounds are also likely to form parts of other compounds, and it seems like it would be more confusing to be expected to represent a nest of compounds on each derived lexeme. For example, if we have a compound consisting of an adjective and a three-member verb construction like مار لے جاوݨ, then any additional lexeme employing that compound would have links from جاوݨ to مار لیݨ, لے جاوݨ, and مار لے جاوݨ. It seems a lot simpler just to link to the single compound, unless querying statements on the constituent lexemes has problems I am not aware of. -عُثمان (talk) 22:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]