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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 10, 2024.

Manalo Cult

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 19:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot find reliable sources calling this church a cult. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. There are lots of sources that do describe the target as a cult so this is a likely search term. We need reliable sources to call them a cult in Wikipedia's voice, we just need sources for a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 11:33, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Explicit (talkcontribs) 23:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 00:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. POV titles are allowed. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment I'll send a ping to WP:PINOY as this is a rather complex topic. --Lenticel (talk) 01:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Soft Delete Keep, see below - There are no online news articles so far that directly refer to the group as the Manalo Cult. They have been described as a cult in some online news articles; many so far having the mention of Manalo Cult from the search results are opinion pieces/editorials from Reddit and Facebook.[1][2] With this, I find that the redirect "Manalo Cult" is invalid with the lack of enough notable direct citation or reference for it to stand on its own. In comparison, there is the redirect "Iglesia ni Manalo" which can be cited to a news article.[3]Markoolio97 (talk) 14:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That comment is difficult to parse but "opinion pieces/editorials from Reddit and Facebook." indicate that this is a term that is in use and which people unfamiliar with it will plausibly search for on Wikipedia - i.e. it's a reason to keep the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 14:48, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Got this, will move for a keep in this case.Markoolio97 (talk) 14:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SSFII

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The result of the discussion was keep and hatnote. (non-admin closure) feminist🩸 (talk) 02:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

super smash flash 2 is a game that also exists and has ssf2 as a redirect to it. leave as is (give or take a hatnote) since super Streets™ 2 is "a little more popular" than super smash flash 2, dabify, or retarget this to super smash flash 2 since it seems the acronym is more commonly used to refer to it? i'm kind of leaning towards the first option because of the roman numeral, but eh cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Explicit (talkcontribs) 23:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 00:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Turbo Edition

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 05:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

was going to retarget to sf2 turbo, but then i remembered... other things have turbo editions as well. some motorola phones, racing game remasters, cars, etc. now i'm torn between deleting and dabifying cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:02, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Explicit (talkcontribs) 23:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 00:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...what? is this a malformed relist with two people behind it? how does it even- cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Explicit attempted to relist but the script malfunctioned and didn't post the relist notice properly. I corrected the malfunction, which posted my signature automatically, and decided that was a reasonable representation of what happened so didn't correct it. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oh, that makes sense
thanks cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Praamzius

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Dievas#Lithuanian and Latvian interpretations. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I kind of doubt that the minor planet is more relevant than the deity here, so this should probably point at the same target as the redirect just below. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. I originally created the redirect assuming no such article for the deity existed, I endorse changing it with this in mind. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Praamžius

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Dievas#Lithuanian and Latvian interpretations. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dievas would probably be more specific of a target. A Praamžis redirect should exist (be created later) with the same target as this one. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Karorius

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4#Karorius

Bute (mythology)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4#Bute (mythology)

Diedievaite

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4#Diedievaite

Aušlavis

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4#Aušlavis

Aušautas

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4#Aušautas

Mario party switch

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 18#Mario party switch

Mario Party (Nintendo 3DS)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 18#Mario Party (Nintendo 3DS)

Mario Party 3DS

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 18#Mario Party 3DS

Mario party revolution

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 26#Mario party revolution

Mario Party Wii

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 18#Mario Party Wii

Mario Bandstand

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Minigame not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Boo's Haunted Bash

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be a place/board in the game [1], but mention at target in unnecessary; delete per nom. Cremastra (talk) 23:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Unio personalis

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 27#Unio personalis

Christologistical

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:04, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neelix creation; not a meaningful word and does not seem to have ever been used (the two hits on Google pertain to this redirect's existence). 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete with prejudice - "Neelix creation" was all you needed to say. The X1 speedy criterion missed this one. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 07:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who dealt with the Neelix cleanup, it's not accurate to say that the X1 criterion missed this one. All Neelix redirects were generated into lists at User:Anomie/Neelix list and were removed after being checked by an editor or deleted. This redirect was removed by Tazerdadog with this edit. -- Tavix (talk) 14:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No objection to deletion - The scale of the Neelix redirects meant that I could only realistically spend a handful seconds on each one on average, and I was judging on a criterion of "Do I think this makes it through a full RFD, or gets deleted early under the snowball clause". Based on the title and target it looked plausible, but I trust the nom's search that this isn't a real term, so delete it. Tazerdadog (talk) 02:15, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Brahmanical Hinduism

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Historical Vedic religion#Brahmanism. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Turn into a disamb-page; "Brahmanical Hinduism" has multiple meanings; see here my version of "Brahmanical Hinduism" as a disamb-page, including references. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not; see the sources here. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've looked at the sources your provided, but the primary topic seems to me to be the same as I mentioned above. It also appears that scholars consider the term synonymous to Brahminism which is a redirect to Historical Vedic religion. PadFoot (talk) 09:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems, that is, ambigious. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Eamon Murphy (2023), Hindu Nationalism and Terrorism in India: The Saffron Threat to Democracy, Taylor & Francis:

One of the key distinctions made within Hinduism is between what is known as Brahmanical Hinduism, the religion of the elie as interpreted by Brahmins and communicated through classical Sanskrit language, and folk Hinduism, which is the form practiced by the majority and has it's own gods and goddesses, priests and rituals. Brahmanical Hinduism is the version best known in the west and the one propagated by Hindu nationalists [...] The Hindu nationalist version of Hinduism attempts to present an idealised, simplified and sanitised version of Brahmanical Hinduism.

This is not about ancient or historical Brahminism, this is about present-day Hinduism, just as Michaels (2004) p.22 has argued; see here.
This quote also applies to you: presenting the ancient Vedic religion as an ancient form of Hinduism, whereas scholars argue that "Hinduism," as a synthesis of Brahmanical Sanskrit culture and local folk religions, came into existence around the beginning of the Common Era. See also Ram Puniyani (2012), Hindutva Politics - Impact on Human Rights, p.150. In: Human Rights and the Third World: Issues and Discourses, edited by Subrata Sankar Bagchi, Arnab Das, Lexington Books: "... the construction of Brahmanism as Hinduism."
Pradyot Kumar Maity (1989), Human Fertility Cults and Rituals of Bengal: A Comparative Study, Abhinav publications, p.2:

Thus Hinduism may be studied under two heads: (i) Brahmanical Hinduism i.e. upper class religion and (ii) folk-religion i.e. religion of the vast majority of the population.

This too is not about historical or ancient Brahmanism, but about present-day Hinduism. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Joshua Jonathan @PadFoot2008 Sorry, lot of changes / reverts have happened around this topic on different pages and trying to understand all the changes and saw this. Just to confirm - does Michaels (2004) p. 21-22 end up identifying his conception of "Brahmanic-Sanskritic Hinduism" with Brahmanism/Brahmanical Hinduism or does he differentiate the two? Seems he uses Brahmanism in other places in the text (for example, p. 46), without reference to Brahmanic-Sanskritic Hinduism and so perhaps in a different sense? Asteramellus (talk) 14:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, he differentiates the two. Samuel also uses the term for an early form of "Hinduism," noticeable in the Gupta-era, a form which he still doesn't want to fully call "Hinduism." Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I hadn't noticed. "Brahmanical Hinduism" vs. "folk Hinduism" also fits in there, and the connection with Hindu nationalism. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
-_-  I suggested that above and you spent the entire day arguing with me. I told you that Brahmanical Hinduism is synonymous with Brahmanism (not Historical Brahminism), and that section covers all the implications of that term. You can withdraw this RfD now and retargeted the redirect. PadFoot (talk) 17:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, you didn't. You only suggested to make the redirect more precise; you didn't notice or suggest what Redtigerxyz noticed. Nor did you say Brahmanical Hinduism is synonymous with Brahmanism (not Historical Brahminism); you wrote Brahmanical Hinduism is commonly used to refer to the phase of the religion during the late Vedic period (Brahminism). Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's still the common usage, isn't it? PadFoot (talk) 07:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Silly mountain

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 18#Silly mountain

Perfect victory

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

a term used for winning a round without being hit, used in pretty much every fighting game that doesn't call it "flawless" instead. surprisingly, though, there seems to be an actual primary topic for this term. more surprisngly, that primary topic seems to be light yagami. not sure if it should be retargeted to him or to fighting game (and adding a mention) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate between Light Yagami and Fighting game. It’s a plausible term for either one. 24.126.165.174 (talk) 11:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Iasst

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The result of the discussion was retarget to IASST. -- Tavix (talk) 16:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is intended as an acronym, so it should be capitalized. However, the acronym IASST --> International Association for Safety and Survival Training. The Institute of advanced Study in science and technology page is new, still unreviewed, potentially non-notable. The current target for Iasst has been redirected, given a previous XfD closer. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No reason to delete, but the different capitalisation should not go to a different target. IASST should probably made into a disambiguation page then Iasst can redirect to it. Redirects with only the first letter capitalised are usually kept (unless consensus has changed recently), and I don't know if these are pronounced as a word but the combination of letters looks like it could be. Peter James (talk) 12:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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