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Priyanka Chhabra

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. M S Hassan (talk) 18:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

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Bollywood Hungama Style Icons

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Non-notable award show sourced mainly to the parent company Bollywood Hungama. Sources I find are all unreliable or just verification of winners. Would redirect but we know how that goes so suggesting a redirect as an WP:ATD here in case full deletion is not in order. CNMall41 (talk) 20:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Bollywood Hungama. A WP:BEFORE search turned up no independent and reliable sources for the event itself on the web, Google News, Google Books, Yandex etc. Since there is a lack of independent, reliable sources with SIGCOV, the article fails WP:GNG and the supplementary essay WP:NAWARDS. However, a redirect could be made to Bollywood Hungama and a brief mention could be added there for the award. The Night Watch (talk) 15:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Ansar English School

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Unsourced with no notability per NSCHOOL or GNG. No SIGCOV either. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: No reliable sources with significant coverage were found. The subject fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 16:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: No sources, fails WP:NSCHOOL ~ Spworld2 (talk) 09:42, 09 July 2024 (UTC)

List of educational institutions in Thrissur district

List of educational institutions in Thrissur district (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non notable list per WP:LIST. WP:DIRECTORY applies too with no WP:SIGCOV. Can be merged to Thrissur. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 11:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge Redirect to Thrissur#Education. Changed my vote to redirect because I do not think it makes any better to merge the list that fails significant coverage with no reliable secondary independent sources and fails WP:NLIST. RangersRus (talk) 12:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

List of educational organisations in North Paravur

List of educational organisations in North Paravur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non notable list per WP:LIST. WP:DIRECTORY applies too with no WP:SIGCOV. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge Redirect to North_Paravur#Educational_organisations. Changed my vote to redirect because I do not think it makes any better to merge the list that fails significant coverage with no reliable secondary independent sources and fails WP:NLIST. RangersRus (talk) 12:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Pratip Munshi

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Promotionally toned article on a non-notable mother-of-pearl artist. It seems to be part of a possible walled garden on various family members of the Mushi/Munsi family. No indication from the current sourcing nor in a BEFORE search that this artist passes GNG nor meets the criteria for NARTIST. All I found online were WP mirrors. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 20:44, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• DELETE Not notable enough at all for Wikipedia standards. Jaunpurzada (talk) 22:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: per nom. Fails WP:NARTIST. All I can find online are trivial mentions in blogs and mirrors of this article, so they also fail WP:NBASIC. C F A 💬 23:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Page reads as WP:PROMO. I do not find any source on the subject notable for originating any significant new concept, or created well-known work. RangersRus (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Bhimadeva

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MOS:DABMENTION requires "If the topic is not mentioned in the other article, that article should not be linked to in the disambiguation page". "Bhimadeva" is mentioned only in Bhima of Mahikavati, probably not a good target for a redirect. I suggest this page is deleted in order to enable uninhibited use of Search. A PROD was reverted by @Utcursch: with edit summary (https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=bhimadeva+caulukya) without editing any targeted article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Kumkum Munsi

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Promotionally-toned article on a non-notable artist. Possibly COI or UPE as part of a series of promotional articles on the Munsi/Munshi family. A BEFORE did not find independent SIGCOV in reliable sources. Possibly a family history or memorial project? Sourcing does not meet GNG nor NARTIST criteria. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 15:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Borderline G11, would not object to draftification for an unconnected editor to attempt an article about Munsi's contributions to the Academy, but that alone isn't grounds for notability and I do not see sourcing to pass N:ARTIST although I acknowledge age of his life is in issue there. Star Mississippi 15:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete. I have searched a bit on Google Book Search and found nothing to pass WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Actually there are several books which have mentioned his name multiple times. Noted painters like Jogen Chowdhury remembered him in his sayings that is well documented in this link: https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Jogen_Chowdhury/e_zpAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0&bsq=Kumkum%20Munshi and https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/ADDA/tSdBEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Kumkum+Munshi&pg=PT81&printsec=frontcover. Not only that, painter Amitabh SenGupta has also remembered Kumkum Munsi in his book Memoir of an Artist (https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/MEMOIR_OF_AN_ARTIST/teLtAwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Kumkum+Munshi&pg=PA26&printsec=frontcover). Even there are some books I found in the Google Books that have their covers designed by Munsi (https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Contemporary_Bengali_Literature/vlsch77pobsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Kumkum+Munshi&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover and https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Cokhera_b%C4%81ire/-jw0AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE+%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%80&dq=%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE+%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%80&printsec=frontcover). Also in 1970, the news of Munsi's exhibition in Maxmuller Bhavan in Kolkata was covered in this Bengali article: https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/De%C5%9Ba/d-EcAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0&bsq=%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%AE%20%E0%A6%AE%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%80 . Finesilpo (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  Also in 1965, another document covers the news of exhibition by Munsi along with other painters. Although these links are available online, there were two books published offline in which Munsi was commemorated which also supports the notability of the subject. Also, in those books it was mentioned that after Munsi's death the Tata Group commemorated Munsi with all his paintings published in their calender.For an artist, is it not a notability when he gets remembered by internationally renowned conglomerate like Tata Group? Finesilpo (talk) 16:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  Name mentions or acknowledgements or image/photo credits are not significant coverage which is what is needed for GNG. Furthermore, the majority of these links are unverifiable. A corporation like Tata Group using his images in a calendar is also not significant coverage nor does it contribute to notability. Sorry to disappoint, but he fails NARTIST. Netherzone (talk) 00:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Government Girls General Degree College, Ekbalpur

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Unsourced since 2017. Can't find sourcing that can pass WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Per nom and page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 12:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Lucky (Indian TV series)

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Lucky (Indian TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Appears to fail WP:GNG and WP:NTV. Tagged for notability since 2013.

Previous AfD had no participants, so closed as no consensus. Let's figure this one out! DonaldD23 talk to me 13:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_StarPlus#Drama_series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

List of educational organisations in Perumbavoor

List of educational organisations in Perumbavoor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non notable list per WP:LIST. WP:DIRECTORY applies too with no WP:SIGCOV. Can be alternatively merged to Perumbavoor#Education The Herald (Benison) (talk) 12:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Redirect to Perumbavoor#Educational_organisations. No sources on the page and the list of educational organizations fails encyclopedic merit without contextual information. Wikipedia is not a directory. RangersRus (talk) 14:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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• Merge to Educational institutions in Ernakulam district. Only three things on this list have a link to their own Wikipedia articles, so not enough for its own list article. Dream Focus 20:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Merge to Perumbavoor. There are already some listed here. Ajf773 (talk) 09:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Hindi Hai Hum

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Fails WP:GNG, doesn't have any reference source. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 04:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Real_(TV_channel)#Drama: where it's listed, and add a source (https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/2009/Feb/26/real-tv-channel-to-go-on-air-from-march-2-28746.html or a more detailed one, like https://nettv4u.com/about/hindi/tv-serials/hindi-hai-hum) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Per nom and no sources with indepth coverage. I would not even consider to redirect the page to Real_(TV_channel)#Drama because this page too fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP with no significant coverage that was up for only one year from 2009 to 2010. RangersRus (talk) 12:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

CKM NSS Senior Secondary School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL and WP:GNG. No SIGCOV found anywhere and the sources used are entirely primary sources. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete As with an advertisement WP:PROMOTION, the referenced source is the school's promotional website ~ ~ Spworld2 (talk) 03:42, 06 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Page is WP:PROMO. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organization. Poor sources on the page with no significant coverage. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 12:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Agastya Nanda

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Notability is not inherited–being a member of a notable family is not an exception, infact, it is the true definition. Having asserted above, the article doesn't meet WP:NACTOR because he only started in one or two films, and not multiple. Infact, most of the sources were about the family, and not this young actor. In regards to that, there is more to draftifying and marking as promised because this is a clear issue of WP:TOOSOON. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Nikhil_Nanda#Personal_life: mentioned there. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Per nom, fails WP:ACTOR also WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 09:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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Akshaya Alshi (fashion blogger)

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Repost of material previously deleted and salted at Akshaya Alshi * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: While doing BEFORE, I found only promotional or sponsored articles WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Most of these articles repeated the same paragraph: “She thinks that quantity is not as important as the quality you deliver, and as an influencer, they do have to maintain high quality.” After seeing this article which clearly mentions “Brand Media.”, I somewhat confirmed that these promotional tone articles are sponsored. These promotional sponsored articles cannot establish notability and meet WP:GNG or any other criteria. GrabUp - Talk 02:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Per nom. This article fails WP:GNG with mostly unreliable sources and the ones that we could consider somewhat reliable does not show any significant coverage and achievements to satisfy notability about the subject and just has entries. Page also reads as WP:PROMO. RangersRus (talk) 12:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete: This article seems like an advertisement, not a real encyclopedia entry. The sources all seem to be promotional pieces, and there are better places for this kind of content. Waqar💬 17:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Educational institutions in Kothamangalam

Educational institutions in Kothamangalam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non notable list per WP:LIST. WP:DIRECTORY applies too with no WP:SIGCOV for any of the listed entities. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 19:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Most of the first paragraph also has nothing to do with the actual title. Procyon117 (talk) 14:42, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Alternatively, merge with Kothamangalam, Kerala#Education. Procyon117 (talk) 14:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. The lead is not what the title of the page is about and the list of institutions in that district fails encyclopedic merit without contextual information. Wikipedia is not a directory. RangersRus (talk) 12:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

T. S. Chockalingam

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. A "renowned" journalist according to the page but references fall well short of showing notability. CNMall41 (talk) 17:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep how do the sources fail to show notability? The first source is an extensive biography of the subject. The second, indicates that he was co-founder of the Tamil literary journal Manikkodi. The fourth indicates extensive role in pre-independence journalism. Other sources refer to him as an "important nationalist journalist" (p.1895) , "pioneering Tamil journalist", "revolutionary Tamil writer", "outstanding writer ... well-known journalist" (p.105). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

You pointed out one extensive biography but the rest are as you say ("indicate"). We need in-depth coverage and not just mentions. Is there something other than the first reference that is in-depth?--CNMall41 (talk) 06:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

You appear unwilling to examine sources yourself, however, the onus is on you to demonstrate why the sources I've mentioned do not satisfy the GNG/BIO. Please note WP:BASIC: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability." Moreover, he can be accorded presumed notability due to NPOL. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I am not sure why the pointed comments. It is as if I just came along and randomly recommended a page for deletion. I did a BEFORE and read through your links above. Mentions do not add up to notability. If you are unwilling to point out in-depth coverage, there is nothing else I can review. As far as conduct, keep in mind this is a discussion, not an argument. Please keep it corrigible. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

If you find this pointed, I apologise, but you have not addressed the responses to the nomination. Please address the P&G issues raised (BASIC, NEXIST, NPOL) and note the Indian Express archive where there is extensive SIGCOV reporting of Chockalingam. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I did address those, just obviously not to your satisfaction. And at this point, your aggressiveness is not something I am about to entertain further. I will let the AfD play out as it will.--CNMall41 (talk) 00:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

No personal attacks, thank you. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per points raised by Goldsztajn, which shows the subject meets notability guidelines. And as a general comment, I'm not sure why this AfD was started only three hours after the article was created. Would have been nice to first ask the editor who created the article to address any concerns before going straight to AfD. --SouthernNights (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Draftify. I was opting for Delete as the page has poor to unreliable to unverifiable sources on the page but in light of sources on the subject's achievement by Goldsztajn, that still shows trivial coverage on the subject, I think Draftify is needed to improve the page with significant indepth coverage on the subject instead of trivial, passing coverage and entries in the sources. As of now, page fails WP:GNG and needs improvement with WP:SIGCOV in reliable and verifiable sources. RangersRus (talk) 14:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Please be specific; which sources are "poor", "unreliable" and "unverifiable"? The three sources I analysed present in the article fit none of those descriptions. NB: WP:NEXIST. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 22:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  What three sources you analyzed that you believe does not fit none of those descriptions? RangersRus (talk) 10:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  The three sources mentioned in my keep !vote above....and, FWIW, you've asked me a question, without replying to mine. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  None of those three sources are on the page and neither one has indepth coverage on the subject. What three you analyzed on the page? Now because you said you analysed three sources on the page, you shortlisted the reliability yourself so I thought it is helpful for me to go over those specfic three if you would have mentioned. RangersRus (talk) 11:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  The sources I mentioned are the sources which appear in the first, second and fourth footnotes in the article. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  Dinamani (subject was editor here), Sahapedia and Madras Musings? RangersRus (talk) 11:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  You've still not replied to my question. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  Dinamani is not a secondary independent source (subject was editor here). Sahapedia is a non-profit organization source with passing comments. Madras musings is poor with passing comments on the subject. Google book short stories (fiction) is unreliable and fails verification. Google book "in those days there was no coffee" fails verification. Pdf file by Srinivas is poor with only a passing comment (the comment also begins with "it is said that....) and the page directly copied the line from the pdf file. The last google source Tamil prose after Bharathi has no significant coverage either and all it says "Chockalingam published his magazine, Gandhi, again at a very cheap price (quarter ana). Later, he became the editor of the Dinamani. He had the skill to express ideas emotionally and with youthful verve in lively Tamil." Its same repeated on all other sources that he became editor of the Dhimani. No significant and indepth coverage on his biography, work as journalist and to be even notable as freedom fighter. RangersRus (talk) 13:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  He died more than 50 years ago; it's not as if he exercises any control over Dinamani. Being a non-profit has no bearing on reliability. BIO, NEXIST, NPOL all indicate the thresholds for notability which are firmly established here. Best to let others express their views. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Draftifying cannot be a substitute for deletion; the point of AfD is to determine notability, not assess the quality of an article's current content. Moreover, an article is *less* likely to be improved in draft space. Chockalingam is discussed on four pages (144, 146, 148, 157) of A. Ganesan's "The Press in Tamil Nadu and the Struggle for Freedom, 1917-1937" (1988). Finally, he satisfies WP:NPOL: he was an MLA of the Madras Presidency (p.46) Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 23:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  What is discussed on all those four pages? Are they entries or passing comment or indepth coverage? RangersRus (talk) 10:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  His contributions to journalism are discussed. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I am not able to find it or verify it. Is the discussion indepth coverage? Entry? Passing comment? Can you verify?RangersRus (talk) 11:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  You don't have access to Google Books? On page 144, it talks about his taking over the editorship of Dhinamani and how he increased readership. Pages 146 and 148 are not visible to me, page 157 contains a footnote discussing him starting Vandemataram in 1931, his arrest for civil disobedience, the effect on the newspaper and him starting as editor at Dhinamani in 1935. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I am looking for indepth coverage on the subject as journalist, writer and freedom fighter like the lead says but I am just finding passing comments. You said "Chockalingam is discussed in four pages (144, 146, 148, 157)" but you are not able to verify page 146 and 148. I was able to check 144 and 157 and there is no discussion of indepth coverage here but passing comments. Page 144 says "Chockalingam Pillai became the editor of the Dinamani in 1935. Under his editorship the paper's circulation increased to 11,000 in 1936." Page 157 says "Chockalingam Pillai started the Vandemataram in 21 September, 1931. He was arrested for his active part in civil disobedience. Due to his inability to pay security the paper ceased publication security." These do not help with the coverage needed on a journalist, writer and freedom fighter. Is there any indepth coverage on him as freedom fighter? RangersRus (talk) 12:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  Why does there need to be indepth coverage of him as a freedom fighter? He already clearly satisfies NPOL and BIO. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I do not see any significant indepth coverage on his biography in the sources and now you mentioned politician that is no where referred on the page with no sources either. RangersRus (talk) 14:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  The reference to him being an MLA is linked above. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 14:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I was evaluating what was on the page. Source about on page 46 has an entry only and no WP:SIGCOV as politician. I will have others say on all this discussion. RangersRus (talk) 14:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: In regards to the discussion above, per the notability guidelines for people "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability." It appears there is in-depth coverage of Chockalingam but most of that isn't in English (here's an example of such a book). However, there is still plenty of coverage in English to prove notability, especially by combining reliable sources per the above guideline. For example, I just added a citation to the article from The Guardian which said Chockalingam was a "pioneering Tamil journalist," while the Encyclopaedia of Indian Literature described him as one of the most important nationalist journalists in Tamil. --SouthernNights (talk) 14:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Goldsztajn and SouthernNights. --Un assiolo (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Google Books has an archive of the Indian Express from the 1930s, a simple search reveals extensive coverage of Chockalingam's role in journalism, Tamil language promotion, politics and the Freedom Movement. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 23:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I checked all pages from 1930s but do not see "extensive coverage of Chockalingam's role in journalism, Tamil language promotion, politics and the Freedom Movement." RangersRus (talk) 00:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

  Here's three I found in a two minute search: "Not Advisable To Call Off Satyagraha. Reply To Critics Of Congress Policy. Reception to Mr Chockalingam" (12 August 1941), "Gandhism Alone Will Lead Us To Final Victory, Mr Chockalingam Replies to Critics of Satyagraha" (27 October 1941), Case Against City Editors, Prosecution Witnesses Examined (27 March 1945). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 02:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment 125 page overview of Chockalingam's life and works (ISBN 8126020997) written in 2005 by Pon Dhanasekaran, includes seven pages of biography (pp.9-16). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 03:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Blaze News

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Non notable organization, clearly failed WP:NCORP, minimum criteria WP:N, nothing found on any platforms such as google, Bing, Yandex etc. Youknow? (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Per nom. Poor sources with no significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 13:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Anandharagam

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Another WALLEDGARDEN of an original television program and all its adaptions. References do not show notability and most of the references are about the other adaptions. Would recommend a redirect to Anandha Ragam (TV series) (the original) as an ATD. Would redirect myself but know based on history we would be back here anyway once it is removed. CNMall41 (talk) 21:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Anandha_Ragam_(TV_series)#Adaptations -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Anandha_Ragam_(TV_series)#Adaptations. RangersRus (talk) 13:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Road Safety World Series

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No evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage to pass WP:GNG. This event and all of its (so far 2) seasons falls foul of WP:NOTINHERITED- just because some notable people played in the event, this doesn't make the event itself notable, as it's a clear GNG failure. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Per nom. AA (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Per nom and this league has not sustained and has not attracted noteworthy significant attention for notability. Two seasons were played with the last in 2022. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 13:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: I don't see any evidence that it's been covered by reliable sources for a long time. Perhaps if the event gains more traction and consistent coverage in the future, it could be recreated then. Waqar💬 18:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Sajjala Ramakrishna Reddy

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The article doesn't meet WP:NPOL; WP:GNG

Sajjala Ramakrishna Reddy is an advisor to the Government of Andhra Pradesh during 2019 - 2024, along with more than COUNTLESS others. (Andhra High Court on Role of Advisors; Some of the List of Advisors) Additionally, he is one of the 31 General Secretaries (List of YSRCP secretaries) of the YSR Congress Party. Beyond these roles, there is little of value to add in Wikipedia article, so I propose it for deletion. RWILD✉ 10:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: He's in the media quite often, but not in any articles about him. There's this [1], but not helping notability. Oaktree b (talk) 11:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as Journalist and politician is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. There is no in-depth significant achievement notable. RangersRus (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: It seems the coverage isn't substantial enough. Perhaps with more time and accomplishments they could qualify in the future. Waqar💬 19:14, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

List of Women's Premier League (cricket) captains

List of Women's Premier League (cricket) captains (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unnecessary WP:CFORK, and violates WP:NOTDATABASE as almost the entire content of the article is just a copy of the ESPNCricinfo source [2]. Just because the men's IPL has this article (which I also don't necessarily agree with), that doesn't mean this article meets WP:NLIST, as I don't see significant coverage about these captains grouped together in news sources (i.e. not just copies of the table). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Per nom. The page does not meet notability guidelines WP:FAILN and WP:NLIST. RangersRus (talk) 12:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: For full transparency, I'm just noting that I mentioned this list was nominated for deletion at the featured list nomination here. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: There are other pages for list of captains as well; see Category:Lists of cricket captains. They have the same sort of sources as well; what difference does it make? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Most of these are captains of teams, rather than captains at tournaments (apart from BPL and IPL, neither of which seem notable either). Why would we need a list of every captain ever at one competition? Also, WP:OSE applies to this rationale. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  How does CFORK applies here? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete fails WP:NLIST. List of Indian Premier League captains should be AfD'd too. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete redundant database. Orientls (talk) 19:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. For IPL, there is coverage like this, but I failed to find such coverage for WPL captains (where this topic is discussed as a set). 84.98.25.20 (talk) 20:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Ahmer Haider (actor)

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Recreation of salted title, Ahmer Haider, which has been salted since 2019 due to repeated recreation. Subject does not seem to pass WP:GNG nor WP:NACTOR. CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: I don't find reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject to justify WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Additionally, he was not a lead character in any of the listed films. GrabUp - Talk 08:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, passes neither WP:GNG not WP:NACTOR. Sources are mostly paid for and that is evident in the cited sources. Ednabrenze (talk) 11:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. No significant and noteworthy achievement by the subject's role as an actor to warrant a page on Wikipedia. RangersRus (talk) 12:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete: Struggling to find independent sources that make a strong case for this article. Additionally, their acting credits seem more minor roles. Waqar💬 18:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as nommed. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

General Airconditioners

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WP:BLAR was reverted, bringing it to AfD. Does not fulfill WP:NCORP due to lack of significant coverage in secondary sources. Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General Broc (talk) 20:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete or Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General. I can not find any significant coverage in reliable secondary independent sources. Sources are poor to unreliable on the page. RangersRus (talk) 21:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General per nom; brand was established in the 1960s to establish an 'English name' and over time, people became fine with Fujitsu as part of it. About as standard a brand story as you can get. Nate • (chatter) 23:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General per nom, fails GNG/NCORP in its own right. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:24, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Manuel D'Lima

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. None of the sources are about him. Sources (and much of the content) are about taitrs. Material on him is just resume type material. North8000 (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the subject. The subject fails notability. RangersRus (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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• Comment a number of references are from offline books. Has the nominator managed to access them ? Atlantic306 (talk) 18:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

It's hard to answer with respect to what you are seeing because there have been 104 edits to the article since I nominated this. But I did evaluate them at the time. North8000 (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, a lot was added after you nominated this, including several refs, but much of it was WP:PROMO, fluff, repetition, and stuff about the genre of theatre that, I think, has no direct relevance to D'Lima's career. I tried to reduce the promo, cruft, repetition and tangential stuff, but someone else should review the refs to see if they actually discuss Liima's life or career at all. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Kanyadan (Marathi TV series)

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Another WALLEDGARDEN of adaptions of television shows based on Kanyaadaana. Nominating this as opposed to mass deletion nomination in hopes of getting input on the others. This adaption is not notable as there is no significant coverage. The references are mainly about the original show or fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA or otherwise unreliable. Redirect would be a good WP:ATD. CNMall41 (talk) 16:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete or Redirect to Kanyadaan_(2020_TV_series)#Adaptations. Poor sources with no significant coverage and critical reviews on the series. RangersRus (talk) 18:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Kanyadaan_(2020_TV_series)#Adaptations.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Supreet Bedi

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Article refunded after soft deletion, but still fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. The vast majority of sources are tabloid coverage, which doesn't count as WP:SIGCOV under GNG. Other sources include primary sources like the subject's own book or WP:INTERVIEWS, or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Fails all criteria WP:GNG, WP:BIO and WP:BLP. No WP:SIGCOV. Sources are poor to unreliable WP:NEWSORGINDIA. RangersRus (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Mayank Shekhar

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Article does not meet WP:GNG and WP:JOURNALIST. Subject did receive an award Ramnath Goenka Award for Excellence in Journalism. Source 1 is a book review, source 2 is a blog, source 3 has a passing comment made by the subject himself, source 4 is a review by subject himself, source 5 is a bio written by subject himself, source 6 is more on bio written by subject himself, source 7 is a link to Ramnath Goenka Award and source 8 is a book written by subject himself. Many unreliable and primary sources here. Draftify would be an option to improve the page with secondary independent sources and remove primary sources like the reviews by the subject himself and the interview with the subject.RangersRus (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

If the award is judged significant enough, he could meet WP:ANYBIO. If his books have received coverage that is judged sufficiently significant (including the review you mention, or https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/name-place-animal-thing-of-bollywood-trivia-popular-culture/articleshow/52685080.cms or https://www.spectralhues.com/news/bookreview-name-place-animal-thing-mayank-shekhar/), he might also meet WP:AUTHOR. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

TOI makes it under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. I still do not find his books a significant monument or been a substantial part of a significant exhibition or won wide significant critical attention by well known peers and critics in secondary independent sources. RangersRus (talk) 18:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

TOI falling under NEWSORGINDIA is an interpretation that I respect but with which I disagree in this case (not great journalism but not simply unreliable). The fact that the author of the book is one of the film critics of the Hindustan Times also indicates the article in the TOI should be rather independent.-- -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Mushy Yank: The article from TOI doesn't look like a review at all; it seems more like a promotional piece or an announcement. Additionally, the article was published by PTI. I don't think he meets WP:AUTHOR. GrabUp - Talk 16:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Note about the Times of India: The Sources noticeboard says not to use it for political subject matters for example, which the Indian task force clarifies: "Uncontroversial content such as film reviews are usable". Consensus is that concern about retributed coverage exists, but not to the point of making it unreliable. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Reply to Note: TOI has trivia (likely promotion) from the subject's book and is not a review that I glanced over again and spectralhues.com is likely unreliable source as it says "Spectral Hues has been founded by a couple of starry-eyed romantics with their feet firmly planted on the ground (a rather unusual combination, we know!)." This is not a well established news media or website. About The Times of India, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources says The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It has a bias in favor of the Indian government and is known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage. So this puts in question the promotion by using trivia taken from the book written by the subject. RangersRus (talk) 14:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep - clearly notable; a prolific film critic who is also known for his in-depth interviews with major film stars. The Ramnath Goenka Award for Excellence in Journalism is no mean achievement, and he is the first film critic to have received it. I have added a reference for an interview with him for the The Asian Age. At best, the article needs expansion, certainly not deletion. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Shshshsh (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.

• Indeed, I should have mentioned that I hapeen to have been the creator of this page many years back. I actually didn't even remember I was the one who created it, as I've created numerous pages for notable Indian film critics. As someone who has worked on Indian cinema-related articles, I can attest to the relevance of his reviews on dozens of film articles, including several FAs. Him being an author as well as the winner of a notable award only consolidates my position. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  interviews are primary sources that needs to cite the truth of the statements unless attributed. RangersRus (talk) 11:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  @RangersRus: Didn't undersrtand what you said here, please explain. Shahid • ^Talk2me 13:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Interviews are considered primary non-independent source. Independent sources helps to fairly portray the subject, without undue attention to the subject's own views. If you use interviews as source for any statement made by the subject then the subject's statements needs to be cited with secondary independent source as well. Wikipedia:Independent sources. RangersRus (talk) 14:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Shshshsh: The award “Ramnath Goenka Excellence in Journalism Awards” is given to over 20 people every year. Do you think this is an exclusive award that can make recipients notable? GrabUp - Talk 16:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, see my reply to nomination above.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly notable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep very much notable, as pointed out above. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 09:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: I am not convinced that he meets any notability criteria. He fails WP:ANYBIO, as the award is not exclusive, with more than 20 people receiving it. Receiving the award first or last does not make it exceptional or add to notability. Regarding WP:AUTHOR, The Times of India is not a review, merely a short promotional or announcement piece with no author, published by the Press Trust of India (PTI), therefore, it does not meet WP:AUTHOR criteria. The person does not meet the General Notability Guideline, which is already known. Also, I don't understand how interviews with celebrities establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 09:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Principal Mutual Fund India

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This company page fails to meet WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH, as most of its citations focus on trivial coverage according to WP:ORGTRIV. TCBT1CSI (talk) 12:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Page is WP:PROMO. Coverage is just news on appointments, acquiring stakes and lacks indepth coverage on the company and its significant achievement or significant demonstrable effects. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 12:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Parliamentary Business

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This stub is essentially an 'About Us' page for a publication that no longer exists. It appears as though it was intended to advertise the publication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TiredMango (talk • contribs) 05:21, 3 Jul 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: promotional content WP:PROMO. Spworld2 (talk) 10:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Gazetted officer (India)

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Nominated by IP 117.230.88.202 as follows: Not received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", hence fails WP:GNG. It violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY as listing all gazetted designations are NOT within the scope of an encyclopedic article as it is not a directory or manual. The article predominantly consists original research, with references that barely support it. Legodesk.com fails WP:RS. (end quote) - UtherSRG (talk) 16:22, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep per all sources available through here.--Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep because Legodesk is not the only citation of this article. There are several references/citations which are indefinitely reliable like : The Hindu, "Indian Laws" Several Official Government of India website(s), Website of Directorate of Printing, Gov of India, Other prominent news/media like Amar Ujala, The Indian Express, etc. Deleting this article would be a big loss to the encyclopedia because Gazetted officers are the officers due to whom the whole country INDIA, works in a systematic manner.
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• Delete: There are gazetted officers for the United Kingdom as well, but I haven't come across any articles on them. It is a content fork of The Gazette of India, where it can be mentioned, and does not justify WP:SIZESPLIT. Other than a dictionary definition, there's no other content encyclopedic to be added. The so-called reliable references are either passing mentions or run-of-the-mill news reports about a single news (eg: JCO). No other "independent sources". The subject definitely lacks WP:SIGCOV, depth of coverage, and fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY.--2409:4073:314:4414:2885:8BF:F6E1:1901 (talk) 17:12, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

  But there are specific pages on Gazetted officer of Kenya and Sri Lanka. There are many reliable references in this article as well.!! TheProEditor11 (talk) 17:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete appears to be a regulatory requirement for promotion, likely too limited in scope for coverage here. I don't see the need for this article. Oaktree b (talk) 20:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Ali Sher Bengali

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To be frank, this article glorifies our subject despite historical scholarship barely documenting sufficient notability to be included within Wikipedia. Some of the sources in the article do not meet Wikipedia standards. Of those that do, some of them are not about our subject at all and are used to source points irrelevant to our subject. The sources which do mention our subject only mention him in passing, never as a separate topic. Article contains a lot of Original Research to make it look like more notable than it actually was, which can mislead people. In connclusion, this article fails WP:N with no significant level of coverage. Jaunpurzada (talk) 00:15, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. The subject fails notability and the sources on the page are poor to unreliable WP:HISTRS with many failing verification with no significant coverage on the subject. RangersRus (talk) 14:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Clearly passes Wikipedia's minimum requirement criteria WP:GNG. also there are many offline sources are available, for more information please see WP:OFFLINE. Some of ref are 1, 2, 3, 4. Thank you. 06:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete The article is confusing and does not show why the subject is notable. Passing mentions collected together does not add to notability or establish a coherent timeline.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 13:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Eashvar Karthic

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Main issue: the 2nd film of the director never released --> WP:TOOEARLY. This guy only directed one released film, not meeting Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative professionals since the film received mixed reviews. The notabliity guidleine states that the director creates a "well-known work or collective body of work". As of 2024, the work is not well known, it is a single film with mixed reviews, not a critically acclaimed film. I don't know if a writeup by an assistant professor at American College, Madurai holds any weightage but that info can be added to Penguin, the director's only released film. The deletion was caused by an undo of a redirect to Penguin. Long sources are mainly direct interviews about Penguin, not independent. Acting roles seem minor and not notable.

If anybody who directs one film, gets an article, doesn't this set a bad precedent. The film didn't win a National Award or any award for that matter.

This source [3] talks about six films including Penguin, all of this information pertaining to Penguin should be moved to the film article. This director can be notable after more of his works release. DareshMohan (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Note: if you are wondering what the contents of source #7 is, it is here: [4] The story focuses on the pain and struggles suffered by the female lead. A pregnant woman remembers her child who went missing years ago. After the child’s missing, her husband started becoming toxic by saying she was the reason for the loss and separated ways from her. Later after years, a male character was shown who accepted her as she is and started living happily with her. No strong characterization or importance was given to both these male roles. They are just part of the screenplay.

That's just the plot of the film. How is it scholarly analysis? The assistant professor mentioned above [5] (page 100) is the only significant analysis but that is of the film and can be added to Penguin.

Just redirect to Penguin till Zebra (his second film) releases. DareshMohan (talk) 23:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: meets WP:DIRECTOR as director of Penguin (film), a notable creation that received coverage, which is what the guideline requires (the said coverage mentions him, see the page about the film). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Penguin (film): His only directorial credit. The second one has been unreleased for over a year, and doesn't have a Wiki article. Kailash29792 (talk) 00:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Fails WP:Actor and WP:Director. AmericanY (talk) 06:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)— AmericanY (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• Keep: This seems like a bad-faith nomination and I believe you are upset about your friend, User:Monhiroe's autopatrolled rights being removed. You first edited this article on 8 October 2023, what changed your mind between then and 19 June, 2024, when you redirected it? Did it take eight months for you to judge its notability? On 19 June, you skimmed through all the articles I have ever created and made some changes on three of them [6][7][8]. Was it to check which ones you could nominate for deletion but couldn't find any, so you thought Eashvar Karthic was borderline because he had only one film and chose to redirect it? Is this how you get back at an editor who may have upset your friend?

The notice you have posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force is not neutral and did not follow WP:APPNOTE. Is your nomination rationale so weak that you are trying to discredit a source simultaneously?

Notability

• The main issue you have mentioned in you nomination rationale is countered by WP:FILMMAKER#3 where it explicitly mentions significant or well-known work. It need not be a collective body of work.
• I believe the film receiving mixed reviews has no weightage here as we are not debating for WP:FILMMAKER#4c
• As of 2024, the work is not well known, it is a single film with mixed reviews, not a critically acclaimed film. - Adding to my previous comments above, the film has been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, which can be verified by checking Penguin (film).
• Apart from the above, the film has been cited in journals for three completely different reasons: A film that discusses women-centric films, OTT during the COVID-19 pandemic and representation of the subaltern.
• If you had taken the time to read through Source #7, you would have known that the PDF you have linked is another journal that has cited the original source #7's work. In the PDF you have linked, Penguin (film) was selected as one of the films out of all the other women-centric films that were released in 2020. The scholarly analysis is in the findings and conclusion section of the same PDF. The journal entry's objective is independent of the subject, so it's absurd to ask for an analysis about the film when the objective is different.
• FWIW, here is another journal that extensively cites the subject's work.

There is significant coverage about the subject and their work. Penguin (film) has also received independent periodical articles, reviews and cited in multiple journals, thereby passing the WP:FILMMAKER criteria. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 09:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Jeraxmoira, I completely agree with you on the notability of this director and, like you, I do indeed disagree with DareshMohan's interpretation of the guideline in the present case, but is your very aggressive opening statement absolutely necessary? I am inviting you to kindly strike it. I don't think it's appropriate here, nor helpful. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Any bad-faith nomination will be called out. My statement is true and the diffs/timeline make it clear, so it will not be struck out. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Penguin (film): he has done only 1 film its better he done atleast 3 or 4 movies. Another film he directed was not released yet. WP:TOOEARLY. Monhiroe (talk) 09:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete or Redirect to Penguin (film). Case of WP:TOOSOON with only 1 release under this director and has not garnered significant achievement to satisfy notability. RangersRus (talk) 13:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: I agree with the analyses of Mushy Yank and Jeraxmoira wrt Penguin meeting GNG via sufficient reviews, thus Karthic automatically passing NCREATIVE#3 and therefore being automatically considered notable by the wording of NCREATIVE's header. I don't like it, but individual AFDs aren't a great place to overrule clear guidelines so I've started a discussion at NBIO Talk because NCREATIVE#3 is clearly a much lower standard (at the lower bound) from the other criteria. That also said, I also suspect that when Zebra is released that it will also receive more than sufficient reviews to pass NFILM[9][10], there will be no good single redirect target, and Karthic will pass my proposed modified NCREATIVE#3 anyway, so a WP:NOPAGE redirect would likely be short-lived. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 09:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Monhiroe and RangersRus, there is is no policy based rationale in your Delete/Redirect votes. I would like to know which policy Eashvar Karthic fails or does not pass to have a separate article. WP:TOOEARLY and WP:TOOSOON are essays and not policies. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  WP:TOOSOON is to tell in short the reason that the actor/director is too early to have a standalone page on himself and policy wise page fails WP:Actor and WP:Director. RangersRus (talk) 13:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work, i.e Penguin (film). Are you implying that Penguin is not a significant work even though it has an article on Wikipedia and has been cited in 3+ journals? RangersRus. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry I do not find his work significant or noteworthy that has received a wide critical acclaim or award or even considered for a remake by other makers. Noteworthy: If we take film Kill (film), the director Nikhil Nagesh Bhat (does not have a Wikipedia page), has created a noteworthy significant work noticed by International critics and the film has also been considered for remake by Hollywood makers. RangersRus (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  But WP:FILMMAKER#3 does not need wide critical acclaim, award or remake by other makers when it fulfills the 'coverage in periodical articles or reviews'. Are you still going to stick to your point? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - meets WP:CREATIVE and WP:NBASIC, as far as I can tell. This seems to be a case of WP:NOTIMPORTANTENOUGH, at least to the nominator - but that isn't a valid ground for article deletion. Newimpartial (talk) 14:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment This article mentions the Telugu film but it should also mention how that film was delayed and never released. I genuinely feel that this article should exist after that film releases per Wikipedia:There_is_no_deadline#View_one:_Don't_rush_to_create_articles: We can afford to take our time, to consider matters, to wait before creating a new article until its significance is unambiguously established. DareshMohan (talk) 21:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Another essay? It seems we are moving away from policy based arguments. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Penguin (film), his sole directorial credit. The sources in the article are based on the film and doesn't extensively describes/mention/discuss about his work. --Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Mira-Bhayander, Vasai-Virar Police

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Rejected, contested draft. Moved back against advice of HD. There is no indication they meet N:ORG. A merger would be fine, but would likely need protected. Star Mississippi 00:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Draftify then salt the page until notability enough referenced. -Lemonaka 01:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Poor sources that talk about inauguration, appointments and organization structure and most of these sources are from the organization's own website. There is no significant indepth coverage in secondary independent sources. Per nom, page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NORG. RangersRus (talk) 14:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  Point to note that, out of 11 almost 6 references are from different news articles, and rest which is there referenced is the actual information, which is true and not for promotion by the website... Pls review again the page references & visit those references Pratik.S2005 (talk) 14:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  • the website is a government law enforcement website. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  6 sites are the police stations own website mbvv.mahapolice.gov.in and 1 another government source has nothing but a link to this police station site. So these are all unreliable and not secondary independent sources. 4 others news site have nothing significant that satisfies notability. It does not have any criteria to pass the notability guidelines for organizations. RangersRus (talk) 22:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  Agree, just to correct, it's an article for Police Commissionerate just like Mumbai Police & not a Police Station... Pratik.S2005 (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• It is requested to review the topic, it is well notable as per the guideline for notability by the Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratik.S2005 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Redraftify until it meets notability guidelines. Procyon117 (talk) 13:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Arjun Tudu

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• Articles for deletion/Arjun Tudu (2nd nomination)

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The page was previously deleted because it fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG and it still holds true. Coderzombie (talk) 10:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Per nom and per WP:BIO. The subject does not meet notability and biography is not enough to deserve attention or to be recorded. Poor sources with no WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 13:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Simply having a biography isn't enough for inclusion. If reliable sources can be found to establish notability, the article could be rewritten and resubmitted for review. Waqar💬 16:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep - @RangersRus:, @Iwaqarhashmi:, I found [11], [12], [13], [[14], [15], [16], [17], among many more English and Hindu sources (not to mention other Indian languages. Cleary was sigifnicant ifgure in Indian lower league football and was even called up to the senior India national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 04:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Das osmnezz (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.

  Most of these sources are interviews and paid promotions and do not help pass WP:NFOOTY. The player has not garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements because he has not played at an international level and he has not played for an entirely professional league to satisfy WP:GNG. He is an upcoming player but it is too early to warrant a page on this subject because of insufficient significant achievements.

RangersRus (talk) 12:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)'

ALl of the sources have tons of secondary coverage that I will gladly cite if asked and there is no indication that any of them are paid promotions... Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete doesn't appear to have ever played in a notable league BFC Aspie (talk) 17:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 18:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep—I wanted to vote the opposite way, because this article is absolutely atrocious in its current state, but there is clearly enough coverage to meet WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 01:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment - To the closer, all delete votes are by users who seldom vote on football deletion debates who still think that players have to both meet WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Cleary was significant figure in Indian lower league football and was even called up to the senior India national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

  "called up to the senior India national team" is not notability. If he played for national team, that would be something to consider. If he was just called up then it is also case of WP:TOOSOON. RangersRus (talk) 19:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Thats one of my more minor points, my point is that he was considered such a good player and significant figure in Indian lower leagues that he was called up to senior nationl team. This proves my point that all delete votes are by users who seldom vote on football deletion debates who still think that players have to both meet WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Either way, he has many secondary sources about him. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I never said has to meet both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. I am saying he passes neither. Doesn't pass WP:NFOOTBALL because he hasn't played professional football and the sources that exist don't justify WP:GNG Coderzombie (talk) 09:00, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Tell me how this article doesnt meet WP:GNG. Im listening... just because he played in thje lower leagues doesnt meen he was a clear topic of interest in Indian football who is probably only lower league Indian palyer to be called up to senior national team.. Article needs improvement, not deletuon. THanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 02:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Arjun Tudu's page should be deleted because he doesn't have enough coverage in reliable sources to meet the notability standards.Yakov-kobi (talk) 14:00, 05 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment - to the closer, nobody has explained how he doesnt pass WP:GNG which he clarly does... just because he played in thje lower leagues doesnt meen he was a clear topic of interest in Indian football who is probably only lower league Indian palyer to be called up to senior national team. Article needs improvement, not deletuon. THanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 02:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep These are excellent references. The article is crap, but the subject clearly meets GNG. The previous deletion discussion years ago is irrelevant, given the amount of media coverage is major national papers since then. The GNG policy clearly supports keeping. I don't see what policy supports deletion. Nfitz (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Swadhin Axom

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Fails WP:GNG. Kautilya3 (talk) 18:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  Delete/Repurpose Dratify EDIT: vote changed since one source shows potential, see below;/ @Flyingphoenixchips, moving the discussion here in the appropriate discussion channel. The movement for an independent Assam might pass WP:GNG and be worth an article. However, it should be an article about the movement, not a proposed state- and it needs to be supported by sources that talk about "Swadhin Axom" as an idea specifically rather than as an alternative name for Assam used by those who want independence. If you believe there are many sources in Google, then WP:DOIT and fix this article. We don't do original research on wikipedia. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 18:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Hey thanks, the sources I mentioned do support it as an idea, and not as an alternative name. All sources are listed in the reference page. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  In no way was the article I have written am original research. Additionally many such articles on proposed states exist, and a separate category in wikipedia exists as well. Will those pages be deleted or just this, since its against a particular POV Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Swadhin Axom was never used as an alternate name for assam. Swadhin means Independent and the proposed independent state is just refered to as Assam or Axom- both are the same literals. Swadhin axom is used by academics to describe this proposed state. Ref: Prafulla Mohonto, Proposal for Independence. Would suggest you to read it Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  To maintain neutrality, would suggest editing existing articles based on your arguments, using credible sources, instead of plain WP:I just don't like it. Wikipedia should never become a battleground of political ideologues. If you read the article its neutral, you can add additional pointers in the article, if you have sources for the same. Thanks Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Don't accuse me baselessly of just not liking it.

  You mentioned a google search, another wikipedia article and its sources on the Talk page- that's not enough when the question is whether "Swadhin Axom" as a concept should be a WP:CONTENTFORK from Assam. Wikipedia's neutrality policy is not about giving equal weight to every political opinion. It also doesn't say that we should have a different article for every political way of looking at something.

  Sources and GNG

  Now let's look at the actual sources in this article:

  • Source 1 - Ivy Dhar has extensive discussion of the idea of Swadhin Axom, specifically in relation to the ULFA and nationalism
  • Source 2 - Nipon Haloi only mentions it once
  • Source 3 - Dutta & Laisram only mention it once
  • Source 4 - Udayon Misra only mentions it once
  • Source 5 - Not only does Santana Khanikar only mention it once (outside of the glossary), she proceeds to call the proto-state as simply the ULFA instead of Swadhin Axom.
  • Source 6 - Swadhin Axom is only mentioned as part of the title of a speech
  • Source 7 - Does not mention it
  • Source 8, 9 and 10 - Does not mention it- all about the 1970s Assam Movement
  • Source 11 - Does not mention it
  • Source 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 - Does not mention it, not even in the entire book of Source 17. These are all about the 1970s Assam Movement
  • Source 18 - cannot access myself but also looks like a book entirely about the Assam Movement
  • Source 19, 20, 21, 22 - Does not mention it
  • etc. etc.

  Now, I couldn't keep going through the remaining 40+ sources but this is only to highlight one issue: the article doesn't really meet WP:GNG standards. Not every sources need to meet WP:GNG, but there should be at least one to establish that the article is notable. Source 1 is a good source for this article, and there may be more in the 40+ citations I couldn't get to.

  However, I would still delete this article and draftify it (I changed my vote) because:

  WP:V - Verifiability

  Just from the first 20, I suspect a lot of these sources were thrown on there because they came up in the Google Scholar search for "Swadhin Axom". Wikipedia requires that the content be verified based on the content of the sources. We don't do original research by giving our own analysis of the source.

  For specific example, let's take the sentence "Figures like Bishnu Prasad Rabha, a multifaceted artist and social reformer, Tarun Ram Phukan, a prominent political leader, and Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, a key figure in the Assam Movement and a former Chief Minister of Assam, have played crucial roles in advancing the cause of Swadhin Axom" It's supported by Sources 14-18. If you will recall from my list above, these are all about the 1970s Assam Movement that don't mention the idea of Swadhin Axom. If Swadhin Axom is really not just a local name for the English phrase 'independent Assam', then you would need a source to connect Swadhin Axom and the Assam Movement, instead of providing the original analysis that the Assam Movement was an important part of the Swadhin Axom proposed state.

  I will reiterate that I think that the article Assamese nationalism would make more sense for the sources you are using. If the article is just about providing more WP:NPOV perspectives about Assam- those should go in the Assam article. If this article is supposed to be about a proposed state it needs to show that the proposed state is a proposed state. From what I see, it might be better focused on the ULFA explicitly, their governing structures etc. In its current state, this article is not fit for mainspace. And it's not because WP:IDONTLIKEIT. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 00:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you for your careful work in checking all the sources. But I am not convinced that the single source (Ivy Dhar) that you mention can save the article. First of all, the source is a Master's thesis, which is normally not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. Secondly, it is only a small section (4.04) that discusses the concept, and it does so in the context of Assamese nationalism and most of the section deals with ULFA, both of which already have their own pages on Wikipedia. I don't agree that this source establishes "Swadhin Axom" as an independent topic that merits its own page. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Yes- I'm saying that it can be draftified and potentially reworked into an article actually about the specific idea- based on assuming good faith that maybe one of the 40 sources I didnt check have something useful. Not particularly opposed to deletion, and if there are no other sources this should be a section of Assamese nationalism as you propose.

  A master's thesis is a reliable source- the policy you link to cautions against blimdly accepting since many theses do original research and are therefore sometime primary sources. But that's not the case here where the author is describing existing sentiment, not coming up the idea of Swadhin Axom outright. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 15:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Alright let me have a look a this article again, and try finding secondary articles on the idea. However i don't feel this should be merged with the ULFA page as its solely not connected to ulfa, and is something like Dravida Nadu Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 02:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Most of the article is WP:SYNTH. United Liberation Front of Asom could be a redirect target ... but this title is misspelled (Axom instead of Asom). Walsh90210 (talk) 04:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  I would like to disagree, since the idea of "Swadhin Axom" (Independent Assam) deserves nuanced understanding and should not be exclusively linked to the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA). While ULFA has prominently championed this cause of an independent Assam through armed struggle, the concept of Swadhin Axom encompasses a broader spectrum of historical, cultural, and socio-political aspirations that predate and extend beyond ULFA's formation. Also both Axom and Asom are used, you will find articles using both the terms.

  Pre-ULFA Aspirations: The desire for a distinct Assamese identity and autonomy can be traced back to the colonial and pre-colonial eras. Movements and sentiments advocating for Assam's self-determination existed well before ULFA's establishment in 1979 (Guha, 1991, 56). Cultural and Ethnic Diversity: The idea of Swadhin Axom also reflects the rich cultural and ethnic diversity of the region. It includes the voices of various indigenous communities who have sought to preserve their unique identities and heritage (Baruah, 2005, 112).

  Political Autonomy Movements: Throughout Assam's history, various groups and political entities have called for greater autonomy and recognition of Assam's distinct status within India. These movements have often been peaceful and democratic, emphasizing dialogue over armed conflict (Misra, 2012, 143).

  Both of the 3 papers are important sources

  Therefore, I propose renaming the Wikipedia article to "Proposal for Swadhin Axom" instead, because it is of relevance to the geopolitics concerning greater southeast asia as well

  Ref:

  Baruah, Sanjib. Durable Disorder: Understanding the Politics of Northeast India. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2005.

  Dutta, Anuradha. Assam and the Northeast: Development and Conflict. Guwahati: Eastern Book House, 2010.

  Goswami, Priyadarshini. Ethnicity, Insurgency and Identity in Northeast India. New Delhi: Manohar Publishers, 2001.

  Guha, Amalendu. Planter Raj to Swaraj: Freedom Struggle and Electoral Politics in Assam 1826-1947. New Delhi: Indian Council of Historical Research, 1991.

  Misra, Udayon. The Periphery Strikes Back: Challenges to the Nation-State in Assam and Nagaland. Shimla: Indian Institute of Advanced Study, 2012.

  Sharma, Monirul Hussain. The Assam Movement: Class, Ideology, and Identity. New Delhi: Manohar Publishers, 2004. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 03:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Kautilya3and @Walsh90210 @EmeraldRange Hey also wanted to point out 3 volumes of books that looked into this topic. Swadhinataar Prostab & Economics of Swadhin Axom. I feel these sources

  You mentioned the following:

  " If this article is supposed to be about a proposed state it needs to show that the proposed state is a proposed state."

  I was only looking at english sources, and there is a lack of literature when it comes to Northeast India.

  There is one article from a newspaper that briefly talks about this idea, but does not elaborate on it: https://www-asomiyapratidin-in.translate.goog/assam/parag-kumar-das-memorial-lecture?_x_tr_sl=bn&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

  I am offering a brief translation below from assamese :

  However, the proposal or demand for independence is not limited to generations. After the Greco-Roman period, proposals for independence were raised. Buli commented that Tetia's memory is still alive today due to Dr. Mishra's agitation in the Indian freedom struggle. But that freedom was not real freedom, many people raised the issue of muklikoi quora during this period.

  Teon Koy, 1947 The freedom that was gained in Chant country was not real freedom. That freedom was in political freedom. Without social freedom, there will be total freedom. Therefore, many of those freedoms are not complete freedom, many of them were promoting social equality and elimination of discrimination in order to achieve complete freedom.

  The disillusionment was largely disillusioned with the passage of time after independence. All those who hoped for independence were disappointed. During the 60s and 70s, the common people were angry about the socio-economic inequality. About which the movement was started. Protests were held by university and college students. Around that time revolutions were starting in different countries of the world. Apart from political freedom, social freedom, social and economic discrimination, women's freedom was also raised.

  This movement started in Europe and reached America. The Vietnam war was forced to end on the basis of this protest. In the next period, the black people's movement was influenced by this movement, which was the global judge. Kakat also made posters on this topic in Indian schools, and propagated about this movement through discussion.

  Dr. Mishra thought that period of 60-70s was the golden age. Because there was a lot of hope in this demand or movement at that time. The literary majesty of that time was influenced by this movement. A new curriculum was being prepared with the support of intellectuals, college teachers and others who supported the movement to raise the demand for curriculum change. Slogans were being written for the liberation of poor women.

  ofc the two books would be the primary source for this article, and there are several sources - secondary analysis done on these books which can be taken as the secondary supporting sources Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 03:52, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

It should be noted that "Swadhin Asom" (there is a misspelling) literally means Independent Assam, and this should be the article instead, an article that describes the motives for an independent Assam. as there are many different sources that describe this movement as a whole. — Karnataka 09:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete upon review, I don't think the sources in the article necessarily support an article on this specific topic - it does not mean that there should not be coverage of those wanting independence in Assam, but this appears to be possibly about a geographical region and the sources do not support that. WP:NOTESSAY also applies. Drafitfying is fine, but I'm not sure there's a clear topic here after a BEFORE search. SportingFlyer T·C 12:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
• Selective merge to Assam separatist movements or United Liberation Front of Asom. These appear to be the appropriate places for discussion of the causes for an independence movement and related activism, but there doesn't need to be a separate page for the proposed state like this. Flyingphoenixchips's sources and some of this article's content belong in those articles.

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Kicko & Super Speedo

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Fails WP:GNG. It lacks significant coverage from multiple reliable, independent sources. The references cited are mainly announcements and TV schedules, which do not provide the necessary independent verification of the show's notability. It has "additional citations needed for verification" tag since May 2023. M S Hassan (talk) 18:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, and India. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Sony_YAY!#Former_programming - Not opposed to Keep, see User:Eastmain's comment during 1st Afd.My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC) (the tag (fact that the page) (edited for clarity) "It has "additional citations needed for verification" tag, even since May 2023, indicates more a cleanup issue than a notability one).
• Redirect to Green_Gold_Animations#Television. RangersRus (talk) 14:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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Singara Chennai

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No reliable reviews or other sources other than a single production source. A search in Sify ([18]), Chennai Online ([19]), and BizHat ([20]) proves futile. Please find the Kalki and Cine South reviews or redirect to Chennai as all online sources prove to be a description for the city. A WP:BEFORE found a fleeting mention here (சிங்கார சென்னை). DareshMohan (talk) 03:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Chennai: Per nom. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete or Redirect to Kalabhavan_Mani#Tamil_films. Poor sources with no significant coverage and reliable critic reviews. RangersRus (talk) 13:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
• I, the nominator, withdraw, my nomination in light of 3 new production sources. Thanks @Srivin:. DareshMohan (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Not opposed to keep if sources covering production are judged sufficient; if redirected, Kalabhavan_Mani#Tamil_films is imv a much better target, but List of Tamil films of 2004#July—September (where it's also listed) would seem even more appropriate, as other cast members have a page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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